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Originally Posted by RockdaMan
I was mistaken. You get a different device back.
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I bought a refurbished iPod four or five years ago...still works. And yes, the non-replaceable battery still holds a charge. 
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I know you are not claiming it holds anywhere near the charge it did when new. That is another thing about lithium ion batteries, unless you store them at adound 40-50% charged they will actually age faster and fail sooner.
And it's that steady decline in capacity that screams for the need to add a backup battery or two staggering the purchase then setup a rotation so they wear at an even rate. I prefer three. My laptops all have the extended 12hrs wedge batteries and combined with the standard batteries. When new batteries are bought I get from 12-16hrs with wifi, browsing and streaming on a 17" 4-5yr old HP nx-series laptop. And I am getting ready to by a few new sets next month and the original sets are now down to about 2-3hrs runtime. But the good news is I do not lose portability, why? Because there are backups in the bag, car, room or pack.
I have backup batteries for my MP3 players and any other portable devices. That's my my Creative Zen Jukebox Xtra is still going strong after about 8-yrs now. That and my updated the HDD to a spare 100GB drive from an old laptop. Who knows I might even up it to 250GB next time I am in the mood. I paid over $400 for the thing but fully expected a decade or more use of it. No reason it should not last that long.
Again I completely do not understand why anyone would find fault with the desire to maintain and have devices which last for decades not months or a couple years. Remember, it's not like we all have money trees in Daddy's wallet.