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Originally Posted by JSWolf
[...]The issue is that library eBooks are not the same. You are borrowing them. There is no buy and keep. The library eBooks are supposed to stop working when the time is up. So if you have the DRM removed and have them past the time limit, you should be paying a fine like you would for borrowing a pBook and keeping it past the date without renewing it. [...]
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Originally Posted by JSWolf
There is a difference when you talk stripping DRM from a library eBook vs. downloading from the net.
The library has the eBook and you are allowed to borrow it for up to 2 or 3 weeks. Then if you want it again or are not finished reading it, you have to borrow it again,. You may have to go to the back of the waiting list and wait some rather long time for your turn. So instead of having it expire and then maybe have to wait all over again, you strip the DRM and keep it. You could have gone back to the library for all the times you want to read it and get it. But there's a chance of having to wait. This way, you don't have to wait.
You find an eBook on the net that is not available at any library you can access. You download it and read it and keep it. Now you have an eBook that you were never supposed to get for free. You've deprived the author of the income from that eBook.
With the library eBook, it is wrong to keep it. But you would have the right to borrow it over and over. So in keeping it, you are not depriving that author any income from that eBook. But, you might be depriving that author income from other eBooks. The library might keep track of how popular eBooks are and buy more from the more popular authors. So you skew the results by keeping the eBook instead of reborrowing.
Another thing you can do with library eBooks is strip the DRM, keep it until you've finished reading it and then delete all copies. If you go past the borrow time, it's still wrong, but not as wrong as you still have to go back to the library to borrow it again if you want to access it. So if the library keeps track of borrows, you don't skew the results as much.
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I'm not sure who you're disagreeing with then, JW.

If anyone here has said it was OK to keep the book - even past the time alotted - I haven't seen it.
All I've seen, including by KK, are defenses of stripping the DRM
as long as you delete when it should be deleted. That caveat has been made clear several times.
The worst accusation against that has been that it means you *could* keep it. But by that logic, you shouldn't even download the library book, because you *could* strip the DRM and keep it.