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snipenekkid · 03-01-2011, 12:40 AM

thanks bos!!

So many devices and soooooo little time. I wish reviews did exactly what the recent posts between you and Harry have done, get info out there about each OS and their pluses and minuses.

I love the idea od the haptic UI. I looked into coding web pages with that idea back around 2000ish and it sounded GREAT but the prob was there were no mainstream devices to exploit the interface, then it was targeted for low-vision folks but boy did it look like a really wide open area of development for everyone. Back then it involved a mouse with a, gawds, vibrator built-in and each object on the screen could trigger a specific vibration, sound and/or visual effect. It was really neat and honestly the overhead coding wise was minimal given the increased accessibility as well as a whole new way to look at an app. Still nobody really has ever done much with it in other than gaming apps. Maybe when we get some true flexible screens and can add the ability to cause a vibration or just a slight deformation of the area on the screen over an object then even touch devices will really get interesting. but I am waaay ahead of things with that part.

Thanks a bunch for the info as well as the tip on the Sense UI as it really does sound very interesting! Funny how it's so natural for people to point and push rather than type but we have become so encumbered by the visual UI needing a mouse that it's no longer just a matter of bolting on a new set of behaviors over the exiting mouse behaviors. To be honest it's amazing to me when a company goes that extra step to get it right rather than right now. But hey, a company has to keep afloat or there's not much chance to complete the original vision.

I'm also really interested in the QNX based OS from Blackberry as I cut my teeth as an IT Director and head of development on that OS back in 1992-1995 before starting my own company. But QNX was just flat amazing running 7 (or was it 8) virtual screens on a diskless 286 (booted from an EEPROM on the NIC, burned our own) with all of 256KB. But heck, I even got Win 3 over Netware to run on those same workstations...not THAT was a neat trick but I did have to bump the RAM to a full 1MB for the RAM Disk. But it did work and was actually snappy since we only ran pfs-Write, a menu system and a few custom apps for the chem lab to log results in real-time. Opps that was the long version of QNX is cool.

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snipenekkid Banned Posts: 760 Karma: 51034 Join Date: Feb 2009	thanks bos!! So many devices and soooooo little time. I wish reviews did exactly what the recent posts between you and Harry have done, get info out there about each OS and their pluses and minuses. I love the idea od the haptic UI. I looked into coding web pages with that idea back around 2000ish and it sounded GREAT but the prob was there were no mainstream devices to exploit the interface, then it was targeted for low-vision folks but boy did it look like a really wide open area of development for everyone. Back then it involved a mouse with a, gawds, vibrator built-in and each object on the screen could trigger a specific vibration, sound and/or visual effect. It was really neat and honestly the overhead coding wise was minimal given the increased accessibility as well as a whole new way to look at an app. Still nobody really has ever done much with it in other than gaming apps. Maybe when we get some true flexible screens and can add the ability to cause a vibration or just a slight deformation of the area on the screen over an object then even touch devices will really get interesting. but I am waaay ahead of things with that part. Thanks a bunch for the info as well as the tip on the Sense UI as it really does sound very interesting! Funny how it's so natural for people to point and push rather than type but we have become so encumbered by the visual UI needing a mouse that it's no longer just a matter of bolting on a new set of behaviors over the exiting mouse behaviors. To be honest it's amazing to me when a company goes that extra step to get it right rather than right now. But hey, a company has to keep afloat or there's not much chance to complete the original vision. I'm also really interested in the QNX based OS from Blackberry as I cut my teeth as an IT Director and head of development on that OS back in 1992-1995 before starting my own company. But QNX was just flat amazing running 7 (or was it 8) virtual screens on a diskless 286 (booted from an EEPROM on the NIC, burned our own) with all of 256KB. But heck, I even got Win 3 over Netware to run on those same workstations...not THAT was a neat trick but I did have to bump the RAM to a full 1MB for the RAM Disk. But it did work and was actually snappy since we only ran pfs-Write, a menu system and a few custom apps for the chem lab to log results in real-time. Opps that was the long version of QNX is cool. Last edited by snipenekkid; 03-01-2011 at 12:43 AM.