Look guys, I think this reading-typing-posting-reading-typing-posting cycle is just too slow, inefficient, and time consuming for a long drawn-out debate.
The solution - I suggest we all meet in person and sit down and have a nice long friendly chat. So you all come over right now to my place, my address is Odeska 15, location right here :
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=4...87547&t=h&z=14
We'll have some chocolate cookies (the kind covered with chocolate on one side, not mixed with chocolate chips) and a couple of drinks (I have wines and vodkas, but I suggest a nice home-made traditional plum-based alcoholic drink), just keep in mind it's 02:00 AM here, so when we have our customary drunken singalong keep it quiet, so the neighbours won't have the police crash our party, OK ?