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Old 02-17-2011, 01:28 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by jocampo View Post
The amount of LCD devices that have been sold are not a true representation of the amount of people who use those for reading purposes only. Take the iPad, for example; that's a multipurpose device and we even have people that they never read or download Kindle or Nook for Android, so your argument has no support at all. Moreover, we have been using LCD displays for so long because still now there is nothing cheaper, easy for mass production that can be used for computer monitors or to display images or multimedia content with high refresh rate. That does not mean they are good, means there is not a good and better replacement yet.
This is bunk. You have said nothing here at all. Moving along and hoping to find something about real technology...

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Saying that eink is better for normal lighting conditions is not an opinion, is a scientific fact. Human eyes read and see based on the natural reflection of light, coming from the sun. Artificial lights like LCD, bulbs, etc, are just an artificial representation of what the natural light is and should be. They are better now than 50 or even 10 years before, but still are not natural. In fact, they are a lot of studies that already confirmed that LCD screens and artificial lights reduce the amount of melatonin; the result of that is insomnia or problems to fall sleep when reading from those devices instead of regular pbooks or even eink.
It is NOT a fact. We have several studies that prove otherwise that I could throw your way as well. More waste of people's time...

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eink, does not emit light, is the most natural way to read. Nothing is coming from the screen so what you see and read is thanks to the natural reflection of the ambient light against the screen. A few of the benefits:

No parallax
On eink black and white particles move and reside on same layer, so when reading, everything looks and really is on the top of the screen, giving a true reading or paper feeling.

On LCD, the white color is coming from back light while black is coming from the front, the liquid crystal layer in the middle; that creates a shadow which gets worse if you read at angle, decreasing the quality of the reading experience and the legibility of the letters and whole content.

Less Glare
Self explanatory. Because eink screens are treated to be matte like a printed page, there is low or no reflection, so what you see is what you are reading, not the content plus additional light reflection, very common on all LCD screens (more or less noticeable in certain devices, depending of the overall quality of the screen)

No aperture ratio loss
The pixels on LCD screens do not have a full aperture ratio. E Ink screens have a 100% aperture ratio.

So when two black pixels are close on a eink screen, they join to create a true solid black (or white, depending) improving the image quality.

So yes, technology is changing and a lot of companies are developing new and better LCD devices (I actually work for one of them) but still they have not come yet with something that, for a pure text book, can be more pleasant for your eyes than eink.
Nice marketing materials. Did you copy/paste this from the Kindle site? I actually work for one of these technology companies too. In fact, one of the largest companies in the world. I'm a senior senior developer (meaning seniors work for me). I wonder why my company doesn't sell an eink reader?

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Last but not least, it is kind of funny that companies like B&N, which started selling eink devices, were just talking amazing things about eink. Once they started to sell the Nook Color, all of the sudden LCD becomes better and ideal for everything.
Like I said, technology changes. People's opinions change. Right now we have convergence of devices on many levels. Many of the things we do are moving over to mobile applications. I guess all these people buying iPads, Android phones and other tablets are all going to have their eyes fried and become blind... Except if that were true I would be blind a long time ago.

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The point is that eye strain is not a myth. And you cannot just deny it because you love your LCD device. And no, reading Magazines on an eink device is not nice, but reading 600 pages of a book without stopping on an eink display is way more comfortable than doing the same on an LCD screen. And that's what I keep repeating and will keep saying, until of course, something new and revolutionary takes place and change the current options that we have for ereaders or tablets.
Never said eye strain was a myth, I said saying LCD causes more eye strain than Eink was a myth. Reading from a plain paper book causes eye strain. Reading from eink using a poorly lit LED light causes eye strain. Watching cars pass by on the street causes eye strain. Reading the neverending false information about LCD screens causes eye strain.

Also, I'll make another prediction. Amazon will start selling devices for reading with LCD screens. It will happen in Q2. Let me know if I'm right in a few months. Seriously, they can't afford not to. Look at Nokia, Once leader of the phone market now quickly losing ground to Android and iPhone. They recently announced they will now be shipping phones with Windows Phone 7. So much for standing fast with Symbian and Meego. Blackberry losing market share because they were slow on the uptake... Once Amazon shareholders start losing money their tune will change.

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