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Old 02-14-2011, 12:37 AM   #30
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OK so I am totally wrong... proof please... reliable source (preferably sources) to show that Apple wanted DRM... the data that they didn't want it came from more than one source and was not some "campaign"... you say all are liars, prove it, otherwise my casual dismissal of you seems completely justified and I was not being condescending just dismissive... also justified as witnessed by your classic dismissal of companies as incapable of the truth... they often are but not always.

I was not in fact disputing your statement, "They benefited from DRM whether they desired its existence or not." but that is not relevant to the comment that was being discussed as to whether Apple wanted DRM... separate subjects... Your concentration on what you think I was doing rather than what I was, is also, to quote you, "very thoughtful, classy and fair of you."

You can hopefully finish this pointless (by now) backwards and forwards for good or at least leave it until tomorrow as I think I'll get some sleep...

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Originally Posted by David Marseilles View Post
That it was reported is a fact. That it was true is not. No conspiracy theory is needed to believe that a multibillion dollar corporation's communications in the course of negotiations with other multibillion dollar corporations included "spin". It would be incredible, in fact, to presume that something coming from any company of that size was the unfiltered, unabridged truth (or "fact"). To do so would ignore the fact that multinational corporations, like politicians, have talking points and PR campaigns aimed at bettering their market positions, negotiating positions and strengthening their brand. Communications are a means to achieve a goal and no more. If you take those campaigns at face-value, yes, I'm going to refer to you as "trusting". And although you assumed I meant that negatively, I actually find the trait admirable. I wouldn't want to be trusting myself, but it's nice to know someone is.

What's more, I did not ignore this claim. My statement to HarryT focused on the impact, on the results to Apple, rather than Apple's subjective intent. They benefited from DRM whether they desired its existence or not. When they led the way to freeing music from its grasp, they had already reaped the rewards that DRM offers to outlets.

So based on a single thing I didn't actually do, you condescendingly dismissed me and any thought I might have as being the result of some sort of weird vendetta. That's very thoughtful, classy and fair of you.
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