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Old 01-11-2008, 02:54 AM   #85
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Why wouldn't I have the natural right to copy a book if the government hasn't taken that right from me (without my consent)?
Without your consent? When you buy a book you agree to be bound by the terms of the contract between you and the seller of the book.
First of all I didn't talk specifically about books, but about copyright in general. Second, when I buy a book I don't draw up a contract. When I get a book from the library I don't draw up a contract (although I might have a contract with the library regarding fines etc., but that's irrelevant to this point). When I buy a used book at a 2nd-hand store I don't draw up a contract. When I pick up a pamphlet on the bus seat next to mine I don't draw up a contract.

Are you getting any of this?

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Or are you finally admitting that the government indeed has decided for the people that the people are better off without their natural rights to copy things (by which I mean that the government has taken that right away from the people, not that it has made it illegal to copy per se)?
No, the government does not restrict in any way the contract between you and the author of the book.
There is no fracking contract between me and the author of the book! There is only copyright, and copyright does not imply a contract.

If I pick up a pamphlet from the bus seat next to me I have not agreed to any contract with the maker of that pamphlet. Yet I don't have the right to make copies of that pamphlet as I see fit. Why? Because the government has decided I'm better off without this natural right of mine.
Now, do you or do you not agree on this point?

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But I asked many times about alternatives. DRM is necessary but certainly not a good solution. Please come up with a better solution.
I answered. It certainly is neither. I did that.
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