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Old 01-13-2011, 08:38 PM   #71
NVash
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Originally Posted by Steven Lyle Jordan View Post
Waiting until someone has concrete numbers to go on is an experiment in futility and frustration, and it's ducking the point. This isn't a numbers issue, it's a cultural issue as significant to our era as the shift to treating slaves as people. We don't need data, we need discussion.
I think were beyond data and beyond discussion. Weve been discussing this forever. The publishers know what people want, they just dont want to give it.

Im wondering though, whos discussing what? People discussing things with the publisher? That wont go well at all, theyre stuck in their ways. They seem to be doing a combination of encouraging piracy and discouraging ebooks and dont care at all. I dont even know what there is to discuss anymore.

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Originally Posted by jgaiser View Post
But it *is* a numbers issue. Without some kind of numbers, you as an author and the publishing industry are all just making guesses about your losses. The fact that your books are available on the darknet provides no usable correlation to loses.
Just a question. Lets say they get numbers and they find that piracy actually helps them. What do you think the reaction would be? IIRC thats exactly what happened to the music industry but nothing has changed at all. Arent they still blaming pirates for low sales?

Another question is say they get numbers and find out piracy doesnt affect them either way. Then what?

They get other numbers that say piracy steals sales. Then what? Theyve been saying that for years, it apparently hasnt helped anyone. What is the purpose of these numbers? Why do they need them? Theres only three outcomes I can see. It either helps them, does nothing at all, or steals sales. I cant think of what theyd do either way besides sit there, continue to blame piracy and stay in the same spot where they are now.

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