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Super feedback everyone...thanks!!

Originally Posted by =X=

Well I wouldn't wait for the Adam, I'd go for the eDG which seems to fill most of your needs and has all of the hard requirements you need.

The one negative with this device is it does not have access to the market, but with some research I'm sure you can find how to root the device if that is something you're willing to do.

The DX is also a good choice, I know you have issues with the features it offers are the ones you are most concerned about, sunlight, battery, PDF, access to annotations.

My rooted nook had far more features than my k2, but I find I prefer my kindle to read because it handled the above requirements so well.

I have to admit I am a closet fan of the Edge and have lurked on their boards for a while now. And you are right it has almost everything I need already present. Not too worried about an "app store" since as ya point out, there are always workarounds for that sort of thing.

I am, however pretty much not going to get any newer Kindles until we see a color device, even they I am not sure Amazon has the desire to stay on the forefront of devices instead preferring to provide a software solution to other device brands. In the long run I sense this is a better decision for them. Plus it caters to the people like most here who prefer a more flexible device rather than a rigid option the current Kindles provide. Plus Amazon does not seem serious about the Kindle DX as a research and business tool when compared to other devices like the Pocketbook (the whole company is targeting the educational market which also will lead to a solid research tool. The Kindle's note taking fails for me as I simply cannot live with their kludgey keyboard setup. That is especially true for notes using complex symbols and if editing a math problem hand written notes are almost a must have. But most of my research these days is in a totally non-science related field.

I did note on the Edge boards many have an opinion the pen is too thin for comfortable writing beyond shorter notes. I took that to mean it's not too good for taking classroom or meeting notes. Neither of which are a problem for me anymore, thank goodness.

Originally Posted by Latinandgreek

I'm deciding between the Kindle DX and the Pocketbook 903, myself. I have read on one of the threads here recently that the Kindle DX does not support notetaking for PDFs, and neither does the Pocketbook 903. I believe that note-taking for PDFs has been promised for both, in a future update (with the caveat that Kindle DX users have been waiting a long time for that update, thus far in vain, whereas the 903 is a very new device, so with any luck an update may be coming shortly). I don't own either device, so my information may be wrong.

Also, there IS a colour e-ink device, if you really want colour:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...=hanvon+colour

I think that it's priced at around $500 U.S.D (There is a link to the price somewhere in the thread), but I don't know where and how it can be bought.

I've looked at all the new videos of the Hanvon color device and I went away disappointed in the performance and the UI seemed very confusing. The brand is fine by me as they make a devices for several companies. Their in-house software did not seem very well designed for now so if I were to consider it, I would rather wait on getting in line for an Adam in the next few months. I would need to wait on a Hanvon anyway as for now they are only releasing in China. At least that is what I understand the situation to be for now. I am sure it is a support issue combined with the real world logistic hurdles in developing a global distributor and point-of-sale presence in other parts of the planet. In a way one of the reasons Pocketbook impresses me is they have developed both a very strong presence in their home country of Ukraine but also have built out a worldwide network covering support and sales at the same time. This was no small feat.

Another choice is the iRex DR1000, if you manage to find it used somewhere (Craigslist, ebay). It's screen is actually somewhat larger than that of the KDX, and it supports mobipocket - so "liberated" Kindle books can be read on it, I assume. It has a touchscreen with note-taking capabilities. The problem here is that it is not sold anymore, and may be hard to find or expensive (I believe it used to sell for about $1000, if I recall correctly, which is why I never bought one!).

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/IRex_Digital_Reader

The irex devices, while there were nice at the time, are now a total non-starter unless I can find a DR1000 for $200-$300. Even then not sure I would buy an old device which didn't ever really get the attention and exposure it needed so there was no capital to grow and improve the device. But for a long time I expected them to be the brand to beat because the DR1000 was so darned close. maybe it is the Newton of it's era? bummer because I really liked it.

Originally Posted by SkyDream

Wouldn't buy the Kindle DX as it lacks support for a few of your requirementes. Furthermore KDXG won't get any update soon, if any.

Unfortunately the PB903 needs a lot of firmware improvements to really fit your requirements.

Don't know the two others.

I agree about the DX. To me it feels like a device which never really was complete on the drawing board and each version has been rushed to market. Then add the price to the equation and the DX sinks fast to the bottom of my list. The next version could be a surprise though I might have gone in a different direction by then. In fact I am willing to bet that is a given.

Originally Posted by Mr. Relativity

I am also deciding, and from my research I would go for the PB903 or the Adam, depending on your priorities.

PB903 doe not have annotation yet, but with the open software design, development community, and annotation software out there (Xournal) I believe we will know soon whether it's possible.

The Adam looks like a fantastic device, and if I were looking to pick up something with more functionality, that's what I would get. A benefit of that is with Android running, you can have a very large selection of software to install on it to cover most of your needs. It also has potential as a laptop replacement, with USB host functionality (keyboard and mouse), 1080p HD video, and all sorts of goodies.

The Edge seems a bit clumsy to me. I may be missing something, but with PixelQi, why bother with two screens?

I REALLY LOVE the look of the Adam as well as the feature set. Like you mention it has almost everything a person could ask for in the real device to offer us a reader, mobile computer as well as a solid enough desktop or even power laptop replacement on the road.

As for Xournal, I use Xournal on my Nokia N800 and really like it a lot, the N800, well not so much because the touch display has become so erratic and suffering accuracy issues to be almost unusable after the first year of use. And this was despite many, many screen calibrations. On that device everything went downhill after the initial update to OS2008 which also buggered the camera and Nokia's response was something along the lines of oh-well...so it was my last Nokia device I will ever own.

I also really am drawn to the Edge even with a few short comings which are nothing I would mind working around. The size is not an issue for me at all. I sense it's more an issue of getting used to the new sort of device with two screens rather than one.

However I feel a new version could be due anytime now. from reading the Edge boards one problem with the Edge is the LCD side is not Wacom but rather just capacitive which is OK I suppose. As for the point of dual panels of the Edge given the presence of the Pixel Qi, working with multiple apps such as a book open one the EPD side while looking up references on the LCD side. To me the whole selling point of the Edge is the dual panels though dual Pixel Qi might be so sweet I would never leave the house!!

Anyway, to everyone very solid input on your research results. Not sure I am any closer to a decision but it really helps to just read the decision process of others. Plus it really helps to know I am not alone in my insanity.

I know this is a long post but just am too tired to break it out into individual response posts. I am a tired and lazy, lazy man.