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Originally Posted by hogleg
You don't get it.
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No. You don't.
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what do you think copyright infringement is? You're trying to make a legal argument out of an ethical one.
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Copyright, and the infringement thereof, are legal principles. Making a legal arguement would then make sense.
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If you take a program without paying, its stealing.
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If it is in a box, in physical form, then taking that copy without paying for it is stealing. From the retailer that bought it. Not from the publisher, or anyone else.
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Just because its not a chair or a paper book or something physical doesn't make it less so.
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Then I would suggest to you that you learn the difference between property theft and copyright violation.
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Someone had to write that program, and you're not paying for it. How do you see that as ok?
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As I write software for a living, I'll put it this way:
Its not "OK" but it is not theft. If I sell a copy of the software to a retailer...I've already been paid...a fraction of the MSRP.
If someone aquires a copy of my app, say a copy, from someone else that paid for it, they have NOT STOLEN ANYTHING FROM ME. I have everything I had BEFORE they got it.
What I don't have, is their money. Notice I said "their money"...until they give it to me, it is still their money. When they give that money to me, they no longer have that money anymore.
If someone is running a copy of my app that they got from wherever...they didn't get it from my stockpile. I have lost noting I did not have.
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Originally Posted by hogleg
Are they somehow less than human? What is your job? If I come in and steal information on customers is that suddenly not theft? What if that is infomation you get paid for, and I've just taken it and not paid you for it?
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All of the above is emotionalism, and pure fallacy.
1. What does humanity have to do with it?
2. No one selling anything on the open market has a "right" to customers. People buy the product if they wish. Anything else is communism.
3. If you enter someone' property and remove anything from their property, yes, that is theft. If you do a "cyber break-in" it is defined similar to a "B & E" because you gained access to a physical system belonging to the victim w/o permission.
4. What if it is info for sale? Do they still have it to sell? Not. Theft. Info. Still. There. What Part. Do. You. Not. Understand?
