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Old 01-04-2011, 10:00 PM   #395
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Then your independent publisher agreed to these terms and it doesn't matter how vague things are, basically the T&Cs say that they can do almost whatever they want, yup looks like ass-covering to me as well but the damn things must have been agreed to or the book would never have appeared... and it isn't illegal until a court determines the T&Cs are unfair practice... Amazon and other companies rely on likely complainants being financially unable to go to court or, if they do, be unable to stay the course.

Don't have a go at me, I'm on your side as to fairness etc of your treatment but whether your books violate their ideas or not doesn't matter when the T&Cs say they pull a book for any reason if they feel like it... life ain't fair... figure out a way round it, get your book published somewhere else, set up your own website, get their actions publicised somewhere that matters, where people may notice and support you... you need to get some serious muscle on your side so that Amazon may actually do something if the publicity gets bad enough... bitching on here may be satisfying but it isn't exactly CNN or the New York Times etc.


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Originally Posted by jamthecat View Post
1. Amazon did not publish my books. They were published through an independent publisher. Amazon agreed to provide them for sale in exchange for a percentage of the sales price. I have not self-published anything. At all.

2. As regards the rest of it -- so what? their T&C and requirements are so vague as to be meaningless. Hell, the BIBLE violates them, which means they are used solely to cover Amazon's said ass and therefore are worthless. And when the agreement is like that, it cannot be enforced except by whim.

3. And if you still think that matters, my books do NOT violate their T&Cs, even with them being that vague. They are not porn. There is no underage sex, pedophilia or bestiality in them. And they are not geared solely at satisfying one's prurient needs, so Amazon is in violation of its own T&Cs by dumping my books.

4. By doing this, they have damaged not only my work but my reputation. And kitty don't like that BS, so he's on the prowl to scowl and do a lot more than meowl in response.

5. You don't like it? Tough.

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