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Old 01-03-2011, 09:55 PM   #880
nguirado
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Maybe you guys are too smart for me.

For example, I used to think that a "straw man" argument is when one argues against a position he himself constructs. It turns out that a straw man is when one states his position, somebody picks up on its logical implication and asks him to clarify, the first person doesn't like the logical implication, and the first person gets mad. Rather than clarify, you insult me, IRONICALLY using stereotypes of Sarah Palin and religious people you heard from who knows where, almost as if you were arguing against a straw man.

It's like you wanted to insult people who think that children, generally, should be protected from graphic sexual images, while agreeing with the very common-sensical notion that children shouldn't be shown graphic sexual images so that you wouldn't be thought immoral. Which is it? Do you think it's OK for children to see graphic sexual images or not? If not, why not? If you think it's OK, then fine. They're your kids. Is it somewhere inbetween? Maybe some sex in movies is good, some bad. Whatever. Just say so. I did. You let your hatred or disdain of religion overwhelm your sense.

Now, do you have indecency laws in your countries? If so, what purpose do they serve? (Am I constructing another straw man by asking?).

In the United States, we have them because it's distracting in some way to have naked people in the street. It's OK to have naked dogs because people don't generally find them sexually attractive. It's OK here to have men with bare chests because it's not distracting in the same way. It's not OK in our society to have men's penises exposed. American men find women's breasts sexually distracting. In other words, the law serves a purpose and if in fulfilling that purpose, things aren't exactly the same between men and women, then that's the way it goes. Your desire for a complete equality, even in the superficial, actually overwhelms the purpose of the law.

Now, in some parts of the world, women do expose their breasts in public and it's not a big deal, I guess. Maybe one day, American men won't be fazed by the distaff breast. Until then, most places have this law. One thing is certain: if women wanted this law repealed, it would happen the next day.
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