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Old 01-01-2011, 11:19 PM   #806
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I don't see what difference it would have made if I would have named the whole country than the capital, but it's an easy thing to clear up. I just really meant "where you are."
Okay, let's just say that, so we at least can put that part to rest.

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I used 9 1/2 weeks because I wanted to compare a mainstream movie with a lot of violence with a mainstream movie with a lot of sex.
No, you claimed it had a lot of explicit sex in it, then jumped to make baseless inferrals from that.

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Somebody suggested it wasn't fair to compare an X-rated movie with Saving Private Ryan.
Ah, yes, and you did that by claiming something that wasn't true, then made a false assumption to back that, all in order to end with a rhetorical that served as the invalid conclusion of your little "comparison".


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I don't know the effect of sex education and/or exposure to sexual material may have had on Denmark. Has it been good? Was it really bad before Danish children became educated about sex?
We have tried to educate "the people" since Grundtvig for real. Sex education has always been considered to be a good thing, supported by all relevant research.
Further, statistically, abstinence, especially combined with attempts to keep people in the dark, are utterly useless to prevent teenage pregnancy and teenage sex, not to mention sex before before marriage.

Just like the death penalty doesn't actually work as a deterrant.

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Here in the US, widespread sex education beginning in the early seventies has gone hand in hand with greater teen pregnancy, STD rates, and general cultural coarseness (hard to quantify).
If you break those numbers and take social status, education level, and the plethora of religious "abstinence" groups into account, you will see that the abstinence groups rate pretty high in the teen pregnancy department.
Why? Perhaps because such religious notions doesn't actually work, the education isn't good enough, or it's completely absent for a number of reasons.

I don't know what to do with your "general coarseness" assertion. To me you could just as well claim that the "general coarseness" of present day US has followed the car sales.

Unless, you're arguing that without education about sex, without education about prevention, you would have a less "coarse" society. That is quite the statement, and I look forward to hear how you couple those things in a valid manner.



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If sex education hasn't been the cause, it certainly hasn't been the cure.
There are a number of reasons for that. In order for sex education to work, it has to be real education, not some religious nonsense about abstinence and nothing about prevention/birth control. It has to be real education, and it has to reach where it is most needed: The young people with parent's that aren't overflowing with resources. Of course, those are the very people that the religious groups targets with misinformation, so it has outdo them. Of course, that has wider implications.

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