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Originally Posted by Worldwalker
The Department of Vaterland Security has been around a lot longer than two years. So has the "Patriot" Act. Whatever things President Obama deserves the blame for, this isn't one of them. It started long before him.
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Far to true. The Republicans are just as much to blame for the state of the country as the Democrats. Republicans = go-slow-Democrats.
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Originally Posted by Worldwalker
It started when we decided "safety" (as defined by someone else, of course) is worth any amount of liberty. It started earlier, when people said "If you don't have anything to hide, what are you afraid of?" It started before that, when we decided to outsource our opinions to the law ("I don't like it, but there's no law against it, so I can't say anything"). It started even before that, when we became "consumers" instead of citizens, defined by what we buy instead of what we do.
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Here is a very good article on the right to privacy and "nothing to hide, what are you afraid of" line.
http://www.wired.com/politics/securi.../2006/05/70886