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sdspieg · 11-25-2010, 05:58 PM

I asked the same question on the nookdevs irc channel - and here is what JesusFreke answered. What I take from this is that a solution would certainly not be trivial, but also not impossible. Here's the transscript:

01[23:32] <sdspieg> can somebody here tell me whether there is any chance that we will ever be able to 'see' the shelves on the Nook (and thus also use Calibre to manage them)? is somebody still working on this?
[23:33] <Mytos> were all still working on rooting
01[23:34] <sdspieg> is that different from 'softrooting'? (I apologize, but I am not well versed in these things)
[23:35] <GabrialDestruir> Visual shelves on the nook?
[23:35] <GabrialDestruir> probably not
[23:35] <GabrialDestruir> visual shelves on the NC? maybe
01[23:36] <sdspieg> i'm referring to the new 1.5 version, that allows us to make 'shelves' (folders). Kovid, the author of Calibre, says that these shelves are not 'visible' over usb.
01[23:36] <sdspieg> (and yes, i'm talking about the nook, NOT the nook color)
[23:37] <@JesusFreke> they're likely stored in a sqlite3 database somewhere in /data/data
[23:37] <GabrialDestruir> Thats what I was thinking, JesusFreke
01[23:37] <sdspieg> and do you guys 'see' that folder?
01[23:38] <sdspieg> and could you help Kovid to make 'Calibre' see it too?
[23:38] <@JesusFreke> it's available via adb - but not via the mass storage device
[23:38] <@JesusFreke> and it would only be available for rooted nooks
01[23:40] <sdspieg> thanks jesusfreke (also for the work you've done on this - i do recognize your name

). But so I have softrooted my Nook - does that then mean that I would be able to see them (and manipulate them) too? with adb via usb?
[23:41] <@JesusFreke> you probably couldn't safely modify them. the application that owns that database won't be expecting it to change underneath it
01[23:44] <sdspieg> and we can't 'manipulate' that application? so that it DOES accept changes?
[23:45] <@JesusFreke> not easily
[23:45] <@JesusFreke> since we don't have the source
01[23:45] <sdspieg> i have a very large collection of ebooks - and we now finally have 'shelves', but books have to be added 'one by one'
[23:45] <@JesusFreke> well
[23:45] <@JesusFreke> you can probably do it manually
[23:46] <@JesusFreke> i.e. pull the database, write a script to add the stuff like you want
[23:46] <@JesusFreke> and then push and reboot
[23:46] <@JesusFreke> but it's not something that could be cleanly/safely done automatically via calibre
01[23:46] <sdspieg> do you have any contact with Kovid about these things?
[23:46] <@JesusFreke> nope, never spoken to him
01[23:47] <sdspieg> woudl you mind me passing this conversation onto him?
[23:47] <@JesusFreke> no problem here
01[23:47] <sdspieg> ok - thanks. will do (on the mobileread forum)

11-25-2010, 05:58 PM	#16
sdspieg Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: Nook, Kindle 3	I asked the same question on the nookdevs irc channel - and here is what JesusFreke answered. What I take from this is that a solution would certainly not be trivial, but also not impossible. Here's the transscript: 01[23:32] <sdspieg> can somebody here tell me whether there is any chance that we will ever be able to 'see' the shelves on the Nook (and thus also use Calibre to manage them)? is somebody still working on this? [23:33] <Mytos> were all still working on rooting 01[23:34] <sdspieg> is that different from 'softrooting'? (I apologize, but I am not well versed in these things) [23:35] <GabrialDestruir> Visual shelves on the nook? [23:35] <GabrialDestruir> probably not [23:35] <GabrialDestruir> visual shelves on the NC? maybe 01[23:36] <sdspieg> i'm referring to the new 1.5 version, that allows us to make 'shelves' (folders). Kovid, the author of Calibre, says that these shelves are not 'visible' over usb. 01[23:36] <sdspieg> (and yes, i'm talking about the nook, NOT the nook color) [23:37] <@JesusFreke> they're likely stored in a sqlite3 database somewhere in /data/data [23:37] <GabrialDestruir> Thats what I was thinking, JesusFreke 01[23:37] <sdspieg> and do you guys 'see' that folder? 01[23:38] <sdspieg> and could you help Kovid to make 'Calibre' see it too? [23:38] <@JesusFreke> it's available via adb - but not via the mass storage device [23:38] <@JesusFreke> and it would only be available for rooted nooks 01[23:40] <sdspieg> thanks jesusfreke (also for the work you've done on this - i do recognize your name ). But so I have softrooted my Nook - does that then mean that I would be able to see them (and manipulate them) too? with adb via usb? [23:41] <@JesusFreke> you probably couldn't safely modify them. the application that owns that database won't be expecting it to change underneath it 01[23:44] <sdspieg> and we can't 'manipulate' that application? so that it DOES accept changes? [23:45] <@JesusFreke> not easily [23:45] <@JesusFreke> since we don't have the source 01[23:45] <sdspieg> i have a very large collection of ebooks - and we now finally have 'shelves', but books have to be added 'one by one' [23:45] <@JesusFreke> well [23:45] <@JesusFreke> you can probably do it manually [23:46] <@JesusFreke> i.e. pull the database, write a script to add the stuff like you want [23:46] <@JesusFreke> and then push and reboot [23:46] <@JesusFreke> but it's not something that could be cleanly/safely done automatically via calibre 01[23:46] <sdspieg> do you have any contact with Kovid about these things? [23:46] <@JesusFreke> nope, never spoken to him 01[23:47] <sdspieg> woudl you mind me passing this conversation onto him? [23:47] <@JesusFreke> no problem here 01[23:47] <sdspieg> ok - thanks. will do (on the mobileread forum) Last edited by sdspieg; 11-25-2010 at 06:01 PM.