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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald
I was being serious. What about intersex people? Non-op or pre-op transsexuals?
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that's why I upped it to 2.3
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Originally Posted by Harmon
I don't think it's a question of embarrassment, so much as indignity and personal affront. The whole process is pretty much an indignity, actually, but with the scans TSA has overstepped.
If all this "security" is necessary, why doesn't TSA profile? Profiling is the most effective way of dealing with terrorists. Yeah, yeah, I know all about the PC notion that profiling is bad. But so is a warrantless and invasive personal search, which is actually supposed to be forbidden by the 4th Amendment.
If the security problem does as to justify profiling, which is NOT unconstitutional under circumstances like this, then it does not justify the scans & patdowns.
We have allowed the government, through TSA, to assume powers that free people should require be exercised with extreme care and subject to oversight by independent judges. Instead, we get idiotic rules enforced in assembly line circumstances, with no right to challenge or object.
Are we supposed to put up with this crap forever? What comes next? I'll tell you - whatever damnfool thing seems logical to the TSA bureaucrats, without regard for reason or common sense. This sort of relentless extension of regulation is inherent in bureaucratic organizations, and needs to be brought under control.
Personally, I think that the profit motive would do a good job of that - put the responsibility for security on the airlines, and let people who want to fly pay for the cost, and vote with their feet by moving to airlines which reflect the customers' level of concern. You prefer the level of security you think is afforded by scans & patdowns? Fly Big Brother Flights. You think that every plane should have 3 armed guards on board? Fly Air Marshall. You think the best thing to do is issue every passenger a box cutter & see what happens to the next guy who tries to blow up a plane with his shoes? It's the Eyes of Texas Airlines for you (and me.)
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*actually I heard a discussion the other day on NPR where there are proposals for just that sort of deal. compiling a list of known ok fliers and streamlining the security check for those people. I would be fine with that.
**sounds like the airline for me!
I would be happy to fly with a visibly armed agent anytime, anywhere!
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Originally Posted by desertblues
I'll go with the security measures as I think it's in my interest too to arrive somewhere in one piece.
But I won't embarras myself by letting these measures restrict my freedom of movement. I mean, life in itself sometimes is hard to figure out. So I hope to have enough common sense not to let these threats intimidate me, and as Kindlekitten said ' to chill out'. 
This being said; I really am a very private person. I don't like people touching me for other reason than medical, compassion or love.
So yes, I will be embarrassed walking through the bodyscan of let myself be patted down. Also I know there's only two options;but my embarrasment is not a rational thing, I guess. 
Also: I'm really very ticklish.  |
having been subjected to several patdowns due to sporting the latest in titanium accessories, I have to say that there has been nothing remotely sexual or stimulating in the patdowns. the full body scanners are much nicer as they are very quick and efficient. you can't even see the people who are watching the scanners.