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Old 11-24-2007, 04:33 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by lubberts View Post
...Could you give me an instance where people have been burned by DRM?
One example could be ... you.
I think I can asume that you own a DVD player.
You want to watch your favorite legally purchased disk.
You insert it into player and you have to suffer through FBI legal warnings, advertisement for questionable movies. *Every time*
There was a discussion recently on this forum and on Slashdot about some people that purchased baseball videos and the company that sold those videos simply switched off the servers authenticating and claimed that those videos were just "one time sale" see http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/07/2014253
There are people that have quite a lot of iTunes purchased and now they are locked in to iPod. I know that many people DO prefer iPod, but let us assume that Samsung releases player that is just much, much better and cooler. You could not use your song library with it.
Another example here on Mobileread:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d+for+consumer

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... in aluminum foil? Or your head? ... Even if the all knowing "they" could access a document that I created and put onto my kindle, for the same reason that I keep my car keys seperate from my house keys (i'm always losing my car keys!) it's not going to be the only copy, or my plot for world domination. (I keep that on my iphone.)
Come on ...
... besides ... *aluminium* would not protect your brain adequately. You would have to use THE original Tin-foil hat [link to the GREAT site called straightdope] - that is one made from a ferromagnetic material.

Let us consider a purely hypothetical situation.
You have in the past purchased some .mobi or .lit files that are DRM protected. "Converting" those files to something readable on your next reader is something many people would consider "ethically all right". Something like "fair use". Our hypothetical user might think: "I paid for that file, so as long as I do not distribute the ... aehmm ... 'converted' result, no harm is done ...", yet such converting might turn out to be illegal. Normally nobody would ever have a chance to find out that you keep such file on a computer. With kindle however ...

In another thread someone mentioned that he would not get permission to read his [confidential] company documents on Kindle.

There are also people that download books from dark corners from the net and they might hesitate to put those books on Kindle.
I know, I know, one of the greatest features of kindle is that you can get the book you desire LEGALLY for a few bucks without using dangerous, cryptic, sometimes outright unpleasant and illegal means.

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Originally Posted by lubberts View Post
And they CAN install anything that they want onto my kindle. They're going to install what...updates?
Sometimes an update can contain things that are undesirable.
Just ask some playstation II owners.
Another hypothetical situation.
Some clever guy invents a hack that would let you to read your (legally purchased, mind you) DRM protected *.lrf, *.lit or *.mobi files on your kindle by extracting PID from Kindle, so you can register it to your list of devices with some .mobi files provider.
Amazon finds out and patches the hole. Just like Sony in PRS505 patched the "hole" clever guys here used to load their "hacks" - like clock, turning pages with joystick, or better font sizes for booklist on PRS500

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IMHO it's coming down to; some people prefer the convenience of having a tailor made library at your fingertips all the time, and are willing to sacrafice a little freedom in where they read the files, and a little cash if they occasionally have to re-purchase a book and some people would rather work a little bit harder to get the same content onto their reader of choice sans DRM. On the 500/505 when I wanted to get a book that wasn't available from the connect store, I'd do a little more work, I'd find it elsewhere (certainly not the darknet) convert it to a nice format, and transfer it in. I still have the ability to do that, I just hope I don't have to waste as much time doing it and can waste more time reading. :-) I recognize that I'm paying for the privilege.
Well said. VERY well said.
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