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Old 10-05-2010, 01:09 PM   #36
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I've actually dealt with some of these points in a previous post.

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The problem is, none of this is specific to Christianity. Blood and sacrifice have been important elements in human cultures for as long as there have been human cultures, and Christianity's usage likely derives from much earlier sources.
There's actually a reason my argument took 3 posts. It's the conglomeration of multiple elements related the Harry's and Lily's sacrifice that point toward the Christ figure. If it were just the blood, or just a sacrifice, I would agree that there's way too thin of evidence. But there are multiple allusions connected to Harry's sacrifice that refer to Christ, and I made sure to explicitly state what those references were.

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In orthodox Xtian theology, Christ sacrificed himself to redeem and protect everyone. That doesn't exactly apply to Harry.
As I stated pretty early in this thread, a Christ Figure is never a 1-for-1 exact duplicate of Christ. A Christ figure is an allusion, and does not require a 100% compliance.

Even Aslan is not 100% like Christ (Jesus was a person, not an animal), and that is an allegorical retelling of the Christian gospel.

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The usage you quote may accord with Christianity, but it accords with other things as well. You haven't proven that the intent was specifically Christian.
I am giving evidence that Harry Potter is a Christ Figure. The term "proof" is, at best, problematic in this context.

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I agree with Pdurrant. I think you are seeing what you want to see. If it improves the series for you by finding such apparent associations, enjoy. You may even be right. I just don't think you've proven your case.
Either the text bears out that Harry Potter is a Christ figure, or it doesn't. Any comment on my state-of-mind is absolutely irrelevant, and an entirely fallacious argument in this regard.

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