Thread: Would you delete a copy of the Koran?
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:03 PM   #334
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Originally Posted by Arthursbedtime View Post
I wish to state something that might now be obvious.

The western world has been under a propaganda campaign for more than 1300 years. The villian has been the leaders of the Christian church. Until the 17th century they would not even let people read the bible.
Problem: now that we have access to the Bible, we see that what the church taught as core beliefs prior to the printing press was largely accurate. Yes, there are denominational differences on non-imperatives (do you baptize infants, do you baptize by immersion, is communion transubstantiation, consubstantiation, is purely symbolic, etc.). And there are corrupt teachings (indulgences) and we still make mistakes even today -- which happen with Bible in hand, even! But the main issue of Christ's Godhood, loving, substitutionary, redemptive sacrifice for all, are core vales to all Christian denominations, and all taught in the New Testament. (Cults like the infamous Westboro Baptist runs afoul of multiple core teachings, most notably Christ loving all, which most certainly includes gays.)

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When Muhammad revealed the Koran, the leaders backed off, not allowing that His message might be a continuation of Jesus' message. Only in 1740s did the Koran get any english translation. (Sale) The message we got was that Muhammad was the enemy.
But He speaks in the highest terms about Jesus and Mary.
For what reason (raised as a christian) would a westerner read the Koran?
I cannot comment on the history of the Koran's translation, nor of the "leaders backing off" that you refer to.

I do appreciate that Muhammed spoke of Mary and Jesus in the "highest terms." I would think that would be one good reason for a Christian Westerner (or Easterner!) to read the Koran.

But how can Muhammed's teaching be a continuation? Doesn't he contradict a core teaching of Biblical Christianity? That Jesus was the son of God, co-equal with God, on part of the Trinity, all of which make up the Godhead (man I hate that word!).

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Does Muhammed accept this teaching? If not, it's hard to reason that he's continuing Christ's teachings.

Not suggesting that this should keep people from reading the Koran, or should cause them to burn it, or any sort of public desecration (or to put it in Christian parlance: sheesh, read the book, it won't hurt you if you stand on the Rock!). However, when you say Muhammed speaks of Jesus in the "highest terms" there may be major caveats to that, some of which are contradictory to core Christian theology.

I'm curious, however, does all this mean you believe we should not delete a digital copy of the Koran from our Reader?

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