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Originally Posted by FlorenceArt
This is so completely untrue that I don't even know where to start correcting you. You have a completely false vision of the history of Europe. Unfortunately I'm not a specialist myself so I couldn't really set you right, but really, I suggest you try reading a few history books and you will find that things are a lot more complex and interesting than this.
The reformation is part of a fascinating period when much of our current ways of thinking were born, but personally I see it (the Reformation) more as a result of these changes than as a cause, although it was probably a little of both. But your vision of its role in history is just completely wrong.
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sorry, I was only a history major. not sure what you are taking exception to
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Originally Posted by Logseman
While the general picture given by Kindlekitten was the ideal which the Church wanted to operate with, and there were stark influences from the Church towards the princes (the waging of Crusades, Church-declared truces), the real deeds were more complex than that. In the Middle Age of Europe the Pope acted like any other prince, dealing with all the other princes, including infidels, to his own profit and to augment his own power. That could lead to interesting consequences, like establishing the Papacy in a French city if it served the interests of the Pope. |
I was just trying to give a snapshot, nothing in depth