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Originally Posted by kindlekitten
prior to the reformation the catholic church for all intents and purposes ran the western world. all authority came from god then to the church who would then give the authority to the king to rule. if the king stepped out of line the church took corrective measures. after the reformation it made it possible for countries to run themselves without church interference. there were no longer church courts, it was civil not secular law. of course a few countries were slower to respond than others.
I'm not attempting to infer that dying or killing in the name of any god is good, right, proper or any other acceptable philosophy
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This is so completely untrue that I don't even know where to start correcting you. You have a completely false vision of the history of Europe. Unfortunately I'm not a specialist myself so I couldn't really set you right, but really, I suggest you try reading a few history books and you will find that things are a lot more complex and interesting than this.
The reformation is part of a fascinating period when much of our current ways of thinking were born, but personally I see it (the Reformation) more as a result of these changes than as a cause, although it was probably a little of both. But your vision of its role in history is just completely wrong.