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Gosh, it makes me laugh to read threads and debates like this. People always thinking of clever excuses why they can get out of there responsibility to themselves and thus to God. All atheists have a deep nagging feeling inside that they're doing something wrong but they the more they think and try to rationalize the heavier their self made chains get. And incidentally... those are the chains that will eventually drag a person to hell or keep him there (or her). This isn't a debate. Its proved! And how much more proof do you need. God created this universe and humanity. Theres no conflict between science and God. Science is only our study to try and understand God better. Our techniques have gotten better in 4000 years but we keep rediscovering the same old stuff. There may be details of some religions that are out of date with what we know to be likely true but to deny the existence of God is a dangerous step that eventually allows people to throw off morality. Obviously this leads to evil actions, and thus straight to .... HELL. And its no joke people. We don't even understand the meaning of burning in hell, so stay with God, thats all you have to do and throw off ridiculous word games.
I mean I laugh but it makes me feel sad too to hear this stuff.
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