I'd say "let's get back to to rumour and speculation" instead of fighting about opinions.
There are things that can be resolved in a discussion and things that can't be.
This thread is about the Kindle. Bowerbird has said some things that might be true or not. He said it in a fashion that is not exactly what we conisder "polite and calm" here on mobileread, but it's not bad enough to warrant any moderator action I think.
Since we are in a subforum that deals with a device that is -at the moment- only rumour and speculation it is all we can do to trawl the internet for information and try to seperate it from pure "nonsense" rumour.
Nate and others put in a lot of work and found quite a large amount of info that suggests very strongy that the Kindle is going to be real, and since the links to kindle books were actually there on amazon, I guess it won't be a release "sometime in 2009" because that would make rather no sense at all.
Do I think Amazon will come to harm because we say it was "delayed"? Nope, I don't think so at all. They did not contradict or sue the NY-Times, and that's a lot more serious than some internet forum...

so I guess they don't see any danger.
The Amazon Kindle has not been officially announced, but these days companies often spread rumours to test the market. Apple does it all the time...or do you think all that information seeps out onto the interent without a little help from insiders??? We saw the Kindle at FCC...that was probably not intentional...but the "Kindle Editions" on Amazon that even had pricing information and were not even removed immediately...I find it highly unlikely that something like that would just hapen by accident. And if Amazon is leaking out little tidbits of information, then what we are doing here is exactly what they want us to do. If they really did not leak it on purpose...well...then it's their own fault...