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Originally Posted by weateallthepies
That's not really true. My three year old Nokia tablet has flash and has done since it was released, it has a pretty good battery life too. Will run for 5 or 6 hours in use and all week on stand by. It's a little old now and only running Flash 9 but it'll still run a lot of content out there. Flash for linux has been around for quite a while now and give the unix roots of iOS I don't imagine it would be hard to get a version of flash working just as well.
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What nokia are you referring to when you say tablet? And when you say a lot of content what exactly do you mean, a lot of content can't be run on current android devices with the latest flash, let alone nokia ones from three years ago. Also bear in mind the screen size, and the constant use of browsing would indeed drain battery (let's not forget in terms of actual browsing time by the users iphone by far dwarfs any other "smart" phone on the market) with flash. Do you get 5-6 hours browsing the web on the nokia? No way. And how large is the device?
And if nokia flash enabled smart phones are so good how come they have just sacked the head of their smart phones dept. and they are doing colossally bad in smart phones, lower than anyone's negative expectations? And bear in mind that I do like nokia phones (before the iphone I refused to own anything but nokia phones), and I think they are probably the best phone maker on the planet, especially when it comes to voice quality they are surely the best. But lately boy have some of their smart phones been huge disappointments despite of the great core of symbian os they run. Some of them in terms of interface have been abysmal train wrecks.
Flash for linux is a desktop non arm flash variant. Unix roots don't really mean much when the code is for a different platform, different cpu and when adobe didn't bother optimizing it with hardware acceleration for that platform. That unix flash (which also runs on os x) is equally bad too since adobe don't leverage other layers of technology to optimize it there as they do in windows. Everyone on os x knows how bad flash is, why do you think click to flash is one of the most used add ons to safari?
Trust me if apple did have a good enough plug in from adobe they wouldn't have any problem including it, why would they? But adobe didn't provide a good enough plug in because they weren't expecting apple to deliver such a big blow with the iphone to threaten them, they thought they'd take their sweet time and blackmail them ultimately to include it by force of market and demand. They were wrong and apple is now spearheading their decline. But they woke up and started crying and whining to late about it. But of course they found very sympathetic ears and mouths to every dime a dozen pundit on the pc side of the fence who with extreme anger have seen time after time the public disregarding their moronic commentary on apple and apple becoming larger in capitalization than ms...
Apple are not supposed to write flash code for adobe just so adobe can sit on their butts and milk a cash cow that wasn't supposed to be there to begin with, they are as they should be) supporting open standards for the web that have better code, that are faster, more flexible and above all open to all, as the web should. Apple's very own open source webkit which spun off from the kde browser is powering almost ALL mobile browsers including google's browser and most browsers on nokia's phones (and palm's webos was based on webkit) because more often than not apple do practice what they preach. Funnily enough some part of the user interface of Adobe's very own CS5 use webkit for rendering.
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Originally Posted by vaughnmr
This is starting to be very entertaining. Obvious signs of koolaide overdose.
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This is the typical garbage comment when the flash adoring pc camp runs out of any arguments whatsoever. It's hard to see apple trampling upon so many misguided fallacies of the pc world type rags and all their pundits and going from strength to strength, with the ipad not only dwarfing netbooks but notebooks too by recent surveys.