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Old 09-11-2010, 11:50 PM   #21
DoctorOhh
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Your ignorance is vast and it must be hard to see out such a tiny button size hole. But I have a lull and I'm bored so here goes.

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I don't like Calibre for a specific reason - it destroys useful data in the process of importing books.
No, it doesn't. My true answers aren't consistent with forum policy so I'll try to keep them short and on point.

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I'm referring to the file name. Calibre will change your file names in a destructive manner.
The file names for your source files haven't changed at all, so how exactly did it destroy your file names?

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It's default behavior is to rename the file according to the metadata. That's fine if you have well behaved metadata - but if you don't you are going to get a bunch of files with garbage names and the Calibre database entries wont be any better.
True, garbage in garbage out. Now if there was just some way to extract the metadata from your perfectly formatted file names...

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If you notice this problem you can fix it (kind of) by changing the preferences to take the metadata information from the file name. Perfect right?
That's Great, problem solved!

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All your hours of effort to properly name files is preserved by having the file name imported as the title on the metadata. Except.... Calibre will still rename your files. And if you then pull the files out of Calibre you'll have to go look at the metadata to figure out what the file name is supposed to be.
Yuk! You put your fingers in calibre's database/library and pulled out files without using proper protection or the proper export features of Save to disk, Send to Device, or Connect to folder? How very unsanitary, if you do that you may lose all the metadata. Maybe someone should write a manual covering this stuff.

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As long as your file names are very short you wont notice this problem. But here's an example of what I'm talking about: I have two books with the filenames:
Pratchett, Terry - [Discworld 01] - The Colour of Magic [pdb].PDB
Pratchett, Terry - [Discworld 02] - The Light Fantastic Txt [pdb].PDB

After adding to Calibre they are:
Pratchett, Terry - [Discworld 01] - The - Unknown.pdb
Pratchett, Terry - [Discworld 02] - The - Unknown.pdb

It's fortunate that I have the series order in there or I would have no way to identify the books without the metatdata. But I've still lost the book title in the file name. Not good.
See that's what I'm talking about, short truncated file names reside in calibre's database/library, if you keep sticking your fingers in then there is no telling what you might be missing. For Petes sake MAN stay away from calibre's database/library and use the tools provided for export. You know what they say, it's all fun and games until somone loses an eye some words.

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I've submitted a bug report to the Calibre guys asking them to change this to retain the original file name - but they flat refused the request. They don't have any interest in making it easy for you to get your books back out of Calibre in a useful format.
Son, I ... I .. say Son, have you not been paying attention? The only bug in the works spoke of above is you! You gotta keep your fingers outta the pie.

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That's too bad. The program has some pretty neat features. I was ready to punch that Paypal button about ten minutes after loading the program
Now that is too bad. I only hope wallowing in all that ignorance doesn't lead you down the wrong path. The Darwin Awards are chalk full of ignorant folks.

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until I realized that it was destroying data
By now you must realize no data has been destroyed.

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couldn't be fixed by the user
Except by using the export tools already built into the program.

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the developers had no interest in addressing the problem.
Boy oh Boy! You must be three shades of red by now. Don't worry ignorance isn't a disease you can over come it. After all, the other 1 million plus users of calibre have managed to overcome their ignorance.

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it prevents Calibre from being useful to me.
I think we all know what prevents calibre from being useful to you.

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I'm not going to commit to a platform that holds my data hostage.
Calibre is holding your data hostage??? How, by making it extremely easy to export your data exactly in the format you want. Damn those pesky developers, having solutions to all your needs. If only you had thought to ask up front.


Update: it was marginally entertaining while it lasted, so I wish to thank you for this fun.

Time to go back to work.

Last edited by DoctorOhh; 09-12-2010 at 01:48 AM. Reason: Didn't want LF to turn the forum around.
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