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rdopfel · 09-07-2010, 11:45 AM

hi charleski and others, i do hope that you are able to help me.
you said this which is exactly what i am attempting -successful but inconsistent and i do not understand what i am actually doing.

"The generated ToC used to govern the file-splitting won't show up in the ePub, if you want a ToC in the actual ePub rather than using the one generated by the ebook reader, then you'd need to create one yourself using links and anchors."

i've been self-learning indesign cs5 with the free trial using tutorials, podcasts, forums such as this - made much progress but the TOC is a real problem - i will not admit how many days and hours i've already tried to sort it all out. Your quote above - just the way you describe what you do - lead me to post.
although the below now seems to work, if you don't mind reading thru you will see that I feel that I need to understand what is happening.

new > book
add each chapter [chapter1, chapter2 etc.]
select chapter1 > assign paragraph style 'chaptertitle'
select hyperlink > text anchor > chapter1
-repeat these steps in each chapter.

result [what i think ] each chapter uses it's 'chaptertitle' as the anchor - or place that one would jump to from the navigation panel on an ebook device.

My method cont.
new > doc > name it tocchapters
'place' table of contents [this is a document of the actual table of contents from the print version]
select chapter1 (the text in this tocchapter document
> assign paragraphstyle 'chaptertitle'
click hyperlinks > click on the icon of the anchor > navigate to the correct .indd file
> select chapter1 > select the anchor from drop down

repeat this for each chapter (each separate .indd chapter document) in the table of contents.
add this .indd to the book using the + sign.

make certain 'tocchapters.indd' is selected
layout > table of contents
toc style says default (it is only when i click save file that i can name it so at this point it is default)
title contents (where or why does this show up ? what does it mean ? i leave it.)
include paragraph style 'chaptertitle'
my options:
- no page #s (it's and ebook)
check create pdf bookmarks
deselect replace existing toc
check include book documents

click save toc style button > name it bookchaptertoc

when i export it as an epub
table of contents:
check inculde indesign TOC entries
tocstyle bookchaptertoc
check suppress autoentries for documents

this is NOW working in the adobe digital reader.
i can click each chapter name and it jumps to the chapter.
BUT the page that is the actual Table of Contents in the ebook only shows up when i scroll past the bookcover
AND
chapter one is a blue link
why ?

Questions.
Is my method efficient ?
Will this work on sonyreaders, ipads, smartphones, kindles ?

This is a bit long but if anyone wants to clear me up on the below it would be great.

1. Why do some of the tutorials do something where they end up 'floating text' into the toc. I do not understand how this works - technically.
This was happening to me - i would see the little piece of text attached to the pointer and until i figured out that i had to click outside of all of the text frames more than 1x to get rid of it - i was getting duplicate copies of chapter names - or so i think that was why.

2. Also i ran into this - if you can follow and let me know how I should have reversed it. I totally corrupted more than one of the tocs that i had working.
the result in the navigation panel of adobe digital reader brought in all of the 'footnotes' to the toc in the adobe digital reader navigation panel.
I think it happened when i tried to 'load' to the toc to another trialbook and i all of the boxes checked [basic paragraph style1 chapterheadings, footnotes etc. etc)

3. The other major problem was that I would get 2 instances of the chapter names in the navigation panel. Some suggested that I make certain that i deselect 'replace existing toc' and i did this and it worked but somehow i did something and started getting 2 instances again.
It is the 2nd instance of each title that actually works as a link to each chapter.

Thanks for the help. My book has 8 chapters with footnotes some of which are hyperlinks to websites and they all import well into indesign doc.

09-07-2010, 11:45 AM	#8
rdopfel Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	hi charleski and others, i do hope that you are able to help me. you said this which is exactly what i am attempting -successful but inconsistent and i do not understand what i am actually doing. "The generated ToC used to govern the file-splitting won't show up in the ePub, if you want a ToC in the actual ePub rather than using the one generated by the ebook reader, then you'd need to create one yourself using links and anchors." i've been self-learning indesign cs5 with the free trial using tutorials, podcasts, forums such as this - made much progress but the TOC is a real problem - i will not admit how many days and hours i've already tried to sort it all out. Your quote above - just the way you describe what you do - lead me to post. although the below now seems to work, if you don't mind reading thru you will see that I feel that I need to understand what is happening. new > book add each chapter [chapter1, chapter2 etc.] select chapter1 > assign paragraph style 'chaptertitle' select hyperlink > text anchor > chapter1 -repeat these steps in each chapter. result [what i think ] each chapter uses it's 'chaptertitle' as the anchor - or place that one would jump to from the navigation panel on an ebook device. My method cont. new > doc > name it tocchapters 'place' table of contents [this is a document of the actual table of contents from the print version] select chapter1 (the text in this tocchapter document > assign paragraphstyle 'chaptertitle' click hyperlinks > click on the icon of the anchor > navigate to the correct .indd file > select chapter1 > select the anchor from drop down repeat this for each chapter (each separate .indd chapter document) in the table of contents. add this .indd to the book using the + sign. make certain 'tocchapters.indd' is selected layout > table of contents toc style says default (it is only when i click save file that i can name it so at this point it is default) title contents (where or why does this show up ? what does it mean ? i leave it.) include paragraph style 'chaptertitle' my options: - no page #s (it's and ebook) check create pdf bookmarks deselect replace existing toc check include book documents click save toc style button > name it bookchaptertoc when i export it as an epub table of contents: check inculde indesign TOC entries tocstyle bookchaptertoc check suppress autoentries for documents this is NOW working in the adobe digital reader. i can click each chapter name and it jumps to the chapter. BUT the page that is the actual Table of Contents in the ebook only shows up when i scroll past the bookcover AND chapter one is a blue link why ? Questions. Is my method efficient ? Will this work on sonyreaders, ipads, smartphones, kindles ? This is a bit long but if anyone wants to clear me up on the below it would be great. 1. Why do some of the tutorials do something where they end up 'floating text' into the toc. I do not understand how this works - technically. This was happening to me - i would see the little piece of text attached to the pointer and until i figured out that i had to click outside of all of the text frames more than 1x to get rid of it - i was getting duplicate copies of chapter names - or so i think that was why. 2. Also i ran into this - if you can follow and let me know how I should have reversed it. I totally corrupted more than one of the tocs that i had working. the result in the navigation panel of adobe digital reader brought in all of the 'footnotes' to the toc in the adobe digital reader navigation panel. I think it happened when i tried to 'load' to the toc to another trialbook and i all of the boxes checked [basic paragraph style1 chapterheadings, footnotes etc. etc) 3. The other major problem was that I would get 2 instances of the chapter names in the navigation panel. Some suggested that I make certain that i deselect 'replace existing toc' and i did this and it worked but somehow i did something and started getting 2 instances again. It is the 2nd instance of each title that actually works as a link to each chapter. Thanks for the help. My book has 8 chapters with footnotes some of which are hyperlinks to websites and they all import well into indesign doc.