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Old 08-29-2010, 09:27 PM   #302
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Originally Posted by OrcaBlue View Post
You are quoting a terms that used by racist like EricE123, who used the "political correctness" argument to justify the used of a racial slur. This is way passed being "political correctness." I was never worry about being "political correctness". I find it blantly offensive and that what I am pointing out. That's why I say don't even use it as defend. "Political Correctness",...Ppplzzzzz.
And here is where you miss the salient question. Is it a racial slur if it's not meant as such? Is it a racial slur if the race in question does not find it offensive? Is it a racial slur if you are part of a culture that uses the term, but not as a slur?

The PC movement is a lot about words. And the reaction to the words alone (the OP is solely a racist due to the term he used) is what makes me conclude that there is some Political Correctness going on.

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I never address anything specific about your case. Why are you accusing me of "not thinking" this and that? Please, read my comment for God Sakes. Have I say anything in regarding to your own experience??
First, I did not "accuse" you of anything. I asked a question. "Don't you think...?" (And to clarify, I'm not asking if you "think," as obviously you do! It's a colloquialism asking "Did you consider this important or not?")

Also, I certain did read your post. Quite carefully. The following is what I was responding to specifically:

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Originally Posted by OrcaBlue
This is about how one should be more sensitive when using language that might offend others in a public forum, especially in forum such as Mobileread. It doesn't mean much when you were never a target of the derogatory label and discriminated against.
Since the above statement was directed at me I don't think I was on too much of a limb to interpret that as "you" as "addressing something specific about my case."

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Blah Blah Blah..., I am sorry but "political correctness" has nothing to do with this case.
Not the "case" (the initial use of the derogatory term), but the response.

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In the movie, he WAS indeed ignorant at the beginning and WAS indeed a racist. He didn't know anything about Hmong culture and think nothing of them. Not until he started interact with them; experienced their hospitality, bullsh*t from his own family, and his terminal disease; did he start to change for the better. Don't tell me that all you got from the movie and think that he was the same throughout.
Did I say that? No. I actually used the movie as a catalyst to ask questions.

I appreciate what you're saying here. Certainly I believe the character changed. But it's important to recall Clint's relationship with the barber. It occurs early in the movie, it's filled with slur after slur from both sides, and it's obvious they both care deeply for each other. So are they racists simply because they use slurs? Or is there more to them than meets the eye (or ear)?

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Please don't use a movie as an example for a real life argument. Please for me....
That's like asking me to not make analogies. I seldom cite films as such, but in this case it is extremely relevant to the discussion. I could just as easily have cited a book. This is a book site, after all.

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