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Old 08-29-2010, 07:31 PM   #295
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This is not the case of overreaching "political correctness". So please don't use that as a defend.
No, it seems to be more like a case of overreaching editing of someone's quote. The very thing I took issue with -- quoting me out of context -- is exactly what you just did, and did... and did.

The rest of my quote follows:
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Originally Posted by EatingPie
No, I had said I think it's okay because it's in use in a circle of friends. That's PC for yah. We can't even discuss and debate, because we have to be misquoted and labeled racist or ignorant. And, even worse, I love my friends -- and their people/culture -- but me calling them "Indians" made me a "racist."
In my accusation about Political Correctness, you don't think it's relevant that I'm quoting terms already used in this thread? Or that in my example, I was explaining how I was (I believe) deliberately misquoted/misrepresented in order to brand me a racist? You also don't think it relevant evidence that I was branded a racist solely due to the use of term, and not at all the state of my heart, or the way I viewed this particular culture (explicitly stated, with "love")?

It is this sole reliance on use of terminology deemed "insensitive" -- rather than looking at a person's heart/intent/motive -- that I define as "Political Correctness."

So, yes, using "PC" as a "defend" is legitimate in this case. But only when you make sure to quote me in context.

Let us take another example.
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This is about how one should be more sensitive when using language that might offend others in a public forum, especially in forum such as Mobileread. It doesn't mean much when you were never a target of the derogatory label and discriminated against.
First, you assume I've never been the target of a derogatory label. False in almost all ways possible. Second you assume I've never been discriminated against. Also false.

I might find such assumptions quite offensive (I have thick skin, actually). Or maybe others would. If this were the case, should you not be more sensitive in a public forum when using language to suggest I've never heard a racial epitaph directed at me, or been treated badly just because of skin color/social standing/way I speak/etc.?

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Originally Posted by EatingPie
I think a sold watching of the film Gran Torino is in order. A guy who cares (fatherly love) about people he calls "gook," "zipperhead," "nip."
Let me guess Hollywood films are now considered reality.
Ah, once again, total out of context quoting. When the sentence that immediately follows was the imperative: "What do you do with that? Is he a racist? It's a damn good question, but one that's about as un-PC as it gets (but, ironically, about loving/caring about people)." Apparently, I hit the nail on the head here.

I started my previous post with the complaint about being misquoted and mis-represented illustrating one way I've seen a sort of "PC agenda" work. And the first reply to my post claims I cannot use "PC as a defend," and bolsters this argument by misquoting (out of context quotes, anyway) and misrepresenting my words!

I would say the irony is pretty thick there.

-Pie

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