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Originally Posted by JSWolf
I have a movie for you that came to me reading your post... The Green Mile.
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God I LOVE that movie, in fact I find most of his work to be better in well adapted screen versions... but thats probably more to do with his style than his content, I just don't like how he writes... him and steinbeck!
Back to the case at hand... The long and short of it is that any symbolic icon without frame of reference of some sort is just geometry. Take the quill, without a historic frame of reference, I wouldn't know a feather with strange end was for writing. Without the zoo, or history I wouldn't know feather got big enough for this to be feasible, and without earth I wouldn't probably know what the hell a feather is.
So, as long as it is easy to recognize (not what it is... but that it is the same on 2 things) It meets our basic need. Next it needs to look nice to us... after all we are going to be recognized with it. Last (im pushing my priorities here.. and I know it... but i only do it cause I'm right
) is its artistic meaning. Honestly I couldn't care less about books environmental impact... anyone who throws away a book should be shot, or at least shown how to read. I do care about shipping costs, space conservation, and media integration. Until e-books are a norm, people are gong to keep having to pay for things that should be free. For me a set of esthetically pleasing lines that represent progress to us, and squiggles to other people would be awesome. Ive been messing around with other things because as an artist I'm craptacular, but I am a damn good artistic technition, and I need the chance to hone my skills where I have them.
This thread is getting long enough that I almost want to start another one with a more directed purpose... and some guidlines... but that would require a benevolent dictator to set them up. True democracy only can survive in groups of 3 or 5.... past that its very ineffective. Heck Congress is practically the opposite of progress. We are on so many different "pages" here that we will continue to disagree and go different directions until there is a stronger push in some direction.
At some point we need to come up with a process and guidelines for this mess... this may not be now, soon or ever... But realize that once I get my readers, my extra energy will be elsewhere... and eventually this thread will drive itself in circles till everyone but the thrill seekers want to get off. (Even they will throw up a few times)
I say all this, not because I want the process to end, but becaue right now there isn't a road map, and the destination is only as clear as "we are going to that place, with the roof... the big roof" !!! We don't know vehicle we want to use, or even how long the trip is... This will continue to be a great, fun trip... because the company is good... but the end destination is moving away from us faster than we are moving towards it.