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Kris777 12-05-2008 03:09 AM

Poll: Sony Reader PRS-505 upgrade to Sony PRS-700
 
This question for Sony Reader PRS-505 owners:
What price you agree to pay for upgrade to Sony PRS-700 in case if Sony will offer it:

1. $200
2. $100
3. $0 - I don't want to upgrade it.

Taylor514ce 12-05-2008 09:41 AM

The 700 doesn't represent an evolution of the 505. It isn't an "upgraded 505", but rather a new product with different navigational, lighting, and screen characteristics. Sony still sells both; the advent of the 700 didn't make the 505 obsolete.

rhadin 12-05-2008 10:43 AM

I found this a difficult question but ultimately opted for not interested. There are things I like about the 700, but none are must have features. My 505 is still ideal for me. Plus, I'm not sure I would take any deal to upgrade from my 505 that required me to hand in the 505. My wife would like my 505 (she has been hinting that I should look at the 700 and give her the 505), so why trade it in?

Kris777 12-05-2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor514ce (Post 301302)
The 700 doesn't represent an evolution of the 505. It isn't an "upgraded 505", but rather a new product with different navigational, lighting, and screen characteristics. Sony still sells both; the advent of the 700 didn't make the 505 obsolete.

:book2:Wikipedia:
The term upgrade refers to the replacement of a product with a newer version of that same product, however, it is most often used in computing and consumer electronics, generally meaning a replacement of hardware, software or firmware with a newer or better version, in order to bring the system up to date or to improve its characteristics. The word is also used by audiophiles to describe the replacement of a product with a better quality product with the aim of bringing enhancements to sound quality.

I think we can use this term "upgrade" for 505 model because new 700 model has more features like touch screen and lighting. The main purpose of this poll is understanding how important these new features for Sony eBook reader users.

Andybaby 12-05-2008 01:30 PM

the touch screen and the Lighting are Features that i would hate to loose on future products.

the only thing lacking honestly is wireless support. but hardly used that anyway when i had my kindle.

detayls 12-05-2008 02:29 PM

The PRS-700 is a failure...
 
Go to Borders and hold the PRS-700 in one hand and the PRS-505 in the other.

The 700 screen is visibly inferior but for some reason they want an additional $100.

Wait for the 800.

Seabound 12-05-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris777 (Post 301450)
:book2:Wikipedia:
The term upgrade refers to the replacement of a product with a newer version of that same product, however, it is most often used in computing and consumer electronics, generally meaning a replacement of hardware, software or firmware with a newer or better version, in order to bring the system up to date or to improve its characteristics. The word is also used by audiophiles to describe the replacement of a product with a better quality product with the aim of bringing enhancements to sound quality.

I think we can use this term "upgrade" for 505 model because new 700 model has more features like touch screen and lighting. The main purpose of this poll is understanding how important these new features for Sony eBook reader users.

Don't sweat it. I think most people understood what you meant in your poll.

Although, I wouldn't consider it far-fetched to think of the 505 as an "upgrade" to the 700. :) Ugh, Sony should have worked harder on the 700's screen. I think they released this thing too quickly.

Server 12-05-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seabound (Post 301542)
.....Sony should have worked harder on the 700's screen. I think they released this thing too quickly....


Once again, CO$T is a huge factor that seems to escape many. An
iPhone / Touch type touch screen of that size would probably place
the reader in such a tight niche market that it would not make sense
to market in the first place. 400 is already high enough IMHO. A
better touch screen would put the cost closer to 500-600 +/-

Sony & Co. made a judgment / marketing call on the cost of production
vs. the cost of a failed product launch. Keep in mind, this is the FIRST
company with the first touch screen added to a reader of this kind.

No doubt the next version will be "new and improved" etc etc...

Who knows what the next complaint will consist of, Weight? Buttons?
Size? Smell? Lack of video or color e-Ink? Connectivity? etc etc...

ShellShock 12-05-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Server (Post 301551)
Who knows what the next complaint will consist of, Weight? Buttons?
Size? Smell? Lack of video or color e-Ink? Connectivity? etc etc...

This is not the same as complaining about the poor implementation of the primary function of a reading device. All the things you mention are secondary to the reading experience, whereas the ability to read the screen is not.

Seabound 12-05-2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Server (Post 301551)
Once again, CO$T is a huge factor that seems to escape many. An
iPhone / Touch type touch screen of that size would probably place
the reader in such a tight niche market that it would not make sense
to market in the first place. 400 is already high enough IMHO. A
better touch screen would put the cost closer to 500-600 +/-

Sony & Co. made a judgment / marketing call on the cost of production
vs. the cost of a failed product launch. Keep in mind, this is the FIRST
company with the first touch screen added to a reader of this kind.

No doubt the next version will be "new and improved" etc etc...

Who knows what the next complaint will consist of, Weight? Buttons?
Size? Smell? Lack of video or color e-Ink? Connectivity? etc etc...

Did I ask for an iPhone/iPod Touch type screen? I said they should have worked harder. Thought about it more, made a better design. How much would it have cost to remove or redesign those lights? I'd rather have a good screen than built-in lights if the lights will get in the way of a good screen design/interface.

Andybaby 12-05-2008 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detayls (Post 301490)
Go to Borders and hold the PRS-700 in one hand and the PRS-505 in the other.

The 700 screen is visibly inferior but for some reason they want an additional $100.

Wait for the 800.

Like ive said, ive had the Kindle i know what the screen looks like without it. sure the Screen isnt as perfect, but i have 0 Problem reading with the touch screen.

Can i Read it just fine? Yes i can.

I have a Kindle sitting in its box right next to me. if i thought for a second the Screen on my 700 wasnt readable i would return it, and start using the kindle again.

Server 12-05-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seabound (Post 301584)
Did I ask for an iPhone/iPod Touch type screen? I said they should have worked harder. Thought about it more, made a better design. How much would it have cost to remove or redesign those lights? I'd rather have a good screen than built-in lights if the lights will get in the way of a good screen design/interface.

just for you,

I'm sure they would have bent over backwards.

Seabound 12-05-2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Server (Post 301599)
just for you,

I'm sure they would have bent over backwards.

Stay classy and keep up the good work.

MdB 12-05-2008 06:14 PM

I wonder what it is about the internet that makes us all want to become such big fat flaming a$$holes all the time? And rant and rave and try to put everybody down. And then come to these places and watch it all go down like a christians v. lions game of old. I'm as guilty as the next guy...I love watching these little flame wars. I'm just sick I guess. Forget the Count of Monte Cristo this month guys - let's do a study on this phenomenon...

Oh yeah - the guy who posted before me and/or after me is a total prick - don't listen to him.

And - I agree - the clarity of the screen is the #1 most important feature of a reading device. I was sooo looking forward to the 700 for that reason. I even got the Sony card in anticipation. Now here I sit, card in wallet, trying to decide whether to get that $199 505 from Bestbuy.com or just keep reading on my iphone for a little while longer. It's the same reason I didn't buy a Pinto in high school. My #1 criterion for car purchase consideration: The ability to get from point A to point B without blowing my a$$ up.

(sorry - a little off topic and preachy...I've spent too much time in front of unhappy people today)

sayhello 12-05-2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellShock (Post 301570)
This is not the same as complaining about the poor implementation of the primary function of a reading device. All the things you mention are secondary to the reading experience, whereas the ability to read the screen is not.

Gotta agree with that one!

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