Help us choose a book as the September 2016 eBook for the MobileRead Book Club. The poll will be open for 5 days. There will be no runoff vote unless the voting results a tie, in which case there will be a 3 day run-off poll. This is a visible poll: others can see how you voted. It is http://wtsharpe.com/Pictures/Multiple-Choice_C3.gif You may cast a vote for each book that appeals to you.
We will start the discussion thread for this book on September 20th. Select from the following Official Choices with three nominations each:
Independent and spirited Bathsheba Everdene has come to Weatherbury to take up her position as a farmer on the largest estate in the area. Her bold presence draws three very different suitors: the gentleman-farmer Boldwood, soldier-seducer Sergeant Troy and the devoted shepherd Gabriel Oak. Each, in contrasting ways, unsettles her decisions and complicates her life, and tragedy ensues, threatening the stability of the whole community. The first of his works set in Wessex, Hardy's novel of swift passion and slow courtship is imbued with his evocative descriptions of rural life and landscapes, and with unflinching honesty about sexual relationships.
From the blurb for one of the Kobo editions in the UK:
Hiroshima is John Hersey's timeless and compassionate account of the catastrophic event which heralded the coming of the atomic age. The Pulitzer Prize-winning author went to Japan, while the ashes of Hiroshima were still warm, to interview the survivors of the first atomic bombing. His trip resulted in this world-famous document, the most significant piece of journalism of modern times. "Nothing that can be said about this book," The New York Times wrote, "can equal what the book has to say. It speaks for itself, and in an unforgettable way, for humanity."
From the Kindle UK description:
"The room was filled with a blinding light. She was paralysed by fear, fixed still in her chair for a long moment. Everything fell.'
2015 is the 70th anniversary of Hiroshima, when, on 6 August at 8.15am, an atomic bomb was dropped over the Japanese city, killing one hundred thousand men, women and children in its white fury. John Hersey's spare, devastating report on the attack was first published in the New Yorker in 1946. Written in the immediate aftermath of the disaster, it chronicles what happened through the eyes of six civilians who survived against the odds. It is a classic piece of journalism, and a defining moment of the nuclear age.
One magical night, the Darling children — Wendy, John, and Michael — are visited by two mischievous denizens of Neverland, an island of the imagination where pirates prowl the Mermaids’ Lagoon and fairies live so long as children believe in them. Peter Pan and his loyal, lightning-quick companion, Tinker Bell, have come for Peter’s shadow, captured the previous night by Nana, the children’s Newfoundland nanny. The pair leaves not just with the shadow, but with Wendy and her brothers, as well, whisking them away to Neverland to join the Lost Boys in their war against the evil Captain Hook.
J. M. Barrie created the character of Peter Pan to entertain a young family he regularly met in Kensington Gardens. Over the course of two novels and a play, he turned a whimsical idea into one of the most cherished literary characters of all time.
• The Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux Goodreads | Patricia Clark Memorial Library:ePub / Kindle | Amazon US Print Length: 270 pages
Spoiler:
From Goodreads:
There is a ghost in the Paris Opera House. Singers, dancers, and stagehands have all seen him lurking in the shadows of the set, and each describes his face differently. Some say it is on fire, others that it is bare bone, and a terrified few say that he has no face at all. Outsiders dismiss the stories as theatrical superstition, but soon the phantom will reveal himself—and the Opera will never be the same.
A crew member is found hanged, and every denizen of the theater is quick to blame the phantom. More deaths follow, until the phantom is forced to make himself known in the most spectacular manner possible. But when the mysterious ghost begins to admire a beautiful singer, it is the beginning of something magnificent: a love story as heartfelt and tragic as any opera ever staged.
Arthur C. Clarke has been the presiding genius of science fiction for almost fifty years. His works include the ground-breaking and profound CHILDHOOD'S END, RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA and EXPEDITION TO EARTH. Written when landing on the moon was still a dream, made into one of the most influential films of our century, brilliant, compulsive, prophetic, 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY tackles the enduring theme of man's place in the universe.On the moon an enigma is uncovered. So great are the implications that, for the first time, men are sent out deep into the solar system. But, before they can reach their destination, things begin to go wrong, horribly wrong.
Willy Wonka's famous chocolate factory is opening at last!
But only five lucky children will be allowed inside. And the winners are: Augustus Gloop, an enormously fat boy whose hobby is eating; Veruca Salt, a spoiled-rotten brat whose parents are wrapped around her little finger; Violet Beauregarde, a dim-witted gum-chewer with the fastest jaws around; Mike Teavee, a toy pistol-toting gangster-in-training who is obsessed with television; and Charlie Bucket, Our Hero, a boy who is honest and kind, brave and true, and good and ready for the wildest time of his life!
First published in 1897, Captain Courageous tells of the high-seas adventures of Harvey Cheyne, the son of an American millionaire, who, after falling from a luxury ocean liner, is rescued by the raucous crew of the fishing ship We’re Here. Obstinate and spoiled at first, Harvey in due course learns diligence and responsibility and earns the camaraderie of the seamen, who treat him as one of their own. A true test of character, Harvey’s months aboard the We’re Here provide a delightful glimpse of life at sea and well-told morals of discipline, empathy, and self-reliance.
General Lew Wallace's Ben-Hur vividly reimagines the mighty Roman Empire and the rise of Christianity. The saga of Judah Ben-Hur's spiritual journey from slavery to vengeance to redemption is both a vivid historical adventure and a powerful story of one man's religious awakening. As Blake Allmendinger writes in his Introduction to this Modern Library Paperback Classic, "Ben-Hur has endured for more than one hundred years because it offers something for everyone. The story of the Jewish hero Ben-Hur, his conflict with the Roman warrior Messala, and his conversion to Christianity at the foot of the Cross, combines adventure, sentimentality, athletic spectacle, and religious devotion."
Heart of Darkness has been considered for most of this century as a literary classic, and also as a powerful indictment of the evils of imperialism. It reflects the savage repressions carried out in the Congo by the Belgians in one of the largest acts of genocide committed up to that time. Conrad's narrator encounters at the end of the story a man named Kurtz, dying, insane, and guilty of unspeakable atrocities.
CRussel
08-27-2016 01:28 PM
Well, from the early voting, it appears we have a very broad range of support for this month's nominations. That's encouraging, and hopefully we'll have a lovely runoff with lots of final choices. Of course, I'm personally hoping we choose Hiroshima. I'll be listening to the Ed Asner reading of that regardless of the outcome. Just as soon as I finish my current mindless twaddle.
treadlightly
08-27-2016 01:34 PM
I find it funny that my favourite book from childhood (when I could choose my own books) and my most loathed book from my teenage years (when books were forced upon me) are both on that list.
CRussel
08-27-2016 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by treadlightly
(Post 3379977)
I find it funny that my favourite book from childhood (when I could choose my own books) and my most loathed book from my teenage years (when books were forced upon me) are both on that list.
Hmmmm. I'm guessing Charlie and Heart, respectively.
I'm completely uninterested in Charlie. It didn't exist when I was of an age to find it interesting, and I just can't get excited now. OTOH, I somehow missed having Heart of Darkness enforced on me, and there's a very good audio book version, with narration by "Frederick Davidson" (real name, David Case), one of my all time favourite narrators.
Other good narration choices, by the way, include Far from the Madding Crowd, Hiroshima, Captains Courageous (which I read for the first time about a year ago), and Peter Pan (either Jim Dale or Donada Peters).
din155
08-27-2016 02:49 PM
And of course one of the books that I have wanted to read for a long time. A classic science fiction.
JSWolf
08-28-2016 12:19 AM
It's time to vote for the Ommpa-Loompas. And the only book you'll find them in from the list is Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
CRussel
08-28-2016 01:52 PM
No, let's try not reading a children's book for our Classics month. Instead, can I suggest the seminal work by John Hersey, Hiroshima. This is the 70th anniversary of it's printing in The New Yorker, and it's a short, but powerful work that we can have a good discussion with. Really, folks, even though I would read Hardy's Heart of Darkness, I can't say I'm looking forward to it.
treadlightly
08-28-2016 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CRussel
(Post 3379997)
Hmmmm. I'm guessing Charlie and Heart, respectively.
For the win!
Hamlet53
08-28-2016 02:48 PM
Not likely to participate in discussion so I won't vote. I've got a list of books of higher priority that is so long I'd have to live another six decades to get through. I do thank CRussel for bringing Hiroshima to my attention though. It's short enough that I hope to read it in the near future. There is also a more straight up scientific and ahem cold blooded account here that is reasonably short and fascinating in its own way.
The other titles all would be second reads, except the Hardy novel. Tess of the d'Urbervilles satisfied a life time need for Hardy for me. What's with all the children's books?
CRussel
08-28-2016 03:01 PM
You're welcome, Hamlet53, I hope you find it interesting and stimulating.
The whole point to Hiroshima is that it isn't cold-blooded and scientific, but rather a very personal account of the effects on individuals who survived. As told directly to John Hersey who went to Hiroshima "while the ground was still warm". I neither need nor want to read the cold blooded scientific facts of a nuclear bomb -- I grew up understanding those all too well. What interests me, and the reason I nominated Hiroshima, is the story of people. When I read, whether fiction or non-fiction, it's almost always about the people or characters that keeps me interested and reading.
WT Sharpe
08-28-2016 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CRussel
(Post 3380437)
No, let's try not reading a children's book for our Classics month....
I agree. Unless it's Peter Pan. I'm curious to see how the original differs from all the later versions.
bfisher
08-28-2016 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CRussel
(Post 3380437)
No, let's try not reading a children's book for our Classics month.
The satire in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is brilliant. I've always thought that Dahl's books were really aimed at adults.
JSWolf
08-28-2016 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bfisher
(Post 3380497)
The satire in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is brilliant. I've always thought that Dahl's books were really aimed at adults.
The lyrics in the Ommpa-Loompa's songs was aimed at adults.
treadlightly
08-29-2016 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bfisher
(Post 3380497)
The satire in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is brilliant. I've always thought that Dahl's books were really aimed at adults.
Pig definitely is for adults only. I found it a bit horrifying.
Dazrin
08-29-2016 12:58 PM
Interesting vote this time. I am a little surprised to see Heart of Darkness in the lead, I haven't read it but isn't it one that many people are forced to read in school? That tends to leave a bad taste behind.
Three tied for second right now - Hiroshima (non-fiction account of the aftermath of using the bomb), 2001: A Space Odyssey (science fiction with a movie that is more well known than the book), and Captains Courageous (coming of age on the high seas) - all of which are very different from each other.
I suspect Hiroshima doesn't have more votes because of US availability, it doesn't appear to be available from the Amazon US Kindle store at least.
Side note: I probably won't get the selections thread updated for about a week due to other issues. Should be updated before next month's nominations start though.
CRussel
08-29-2016 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dazrin
(Post 3380980)
Interesting vote this time. I am a little surprised to see Heart of Darkness in the lead, I haven't read it but isn't it one that many people are forced to read in school? That tends to leave a bad taste behind.
Three tied for second right now - Hiroshima (non-fiction account of the aftermath of using the bomb), 2001: A Space Odyssey (science fiction with a movie that is more well known than the book), and Captains Courageous (coming of age on the high seas) - all of which are very different from each other.
I suspect Hiroshima doesn't have more votes because of US availability, it doesn't appear to be available from the Amazon US Kindle store at least.
Yes, that might be an issue in some minds, but there IS a free version from Kobo that is available in the US. And conversion is a non-issue. Though I admit, even though it's now on my Kindle, I'm going with the Ed Asner reading.
Hamlet53
08-29-2016 02:26 PM
About availability in the US. Perhaps CRussel can confirm, but this looks to be it?
It's right out there on the Internet so I would assume that copying or downloading this would not be a copyright violation?
CRussel
08-29-2016 03:02 PM
Yes, that's it. And you can certainly read it directly on that site. However, Condé Nast retains copyright:
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Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement (effective January 1, 2014) and Privacy Policy (effective January 1, 2014). Your California Privacy Rights The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Condé Nast.
Given their willingness at the time of the initial publication to allow others to reprint the article, I suspect one could get permission. But just because it's freely available doesn't mean you can reproduce it without that permission.
And really, it's easy available for free on Kobo, so why bother? (Add to Library and then it is a direct epub or pdf download, not DRM'd. )
Just to be clear, I'll be reading Hiroshima regardless of what we decide to do here as the MobileRead Book Club. But I would really like to have us all read and discuss it. I think it's a worthy read, it's short, it's free, and it will provide the basis for an excellent discussion, IMHO.
bfisher
08-29-2016 06:07 PM
Gene Wilder died yesterday. For me, he'll always be the definitive Willie Wonka for dramatizations of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Hamlet53
08-29-2016 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CRussel
(Post 3381070)
Yes, that's it. And you can certainly read it directly on that site. However, Condé Nast retains copyright:
Spoiler:
Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement (effective January 1, 2014) and Privacy Policy (effective January 1, 2014). Your California Privacy Rights The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Condé Nast.
Given their willingness at the time of the initial publication to allow others to reprint the article, I suspect one could get permission. But just because it's freely available doesn't mean you can reproduce it without that permission.
And really, it's easy available for free on Kobo, so why bother? (Add to Library and then it is a direct epub or pdf download, not DRM'd. )
To be clear I was not suggesting copying and distributing that online source, nor turning it into an ebook and adding it to the MR Library. I'm sure the moderators would stop that. I'll just use it as a source to read on my computer since it's so short and convenient. It's been a while but last time I tried getting an ebook from Kobo it was not possible to get a DRM free epub download. This was over a year ago though.
Just to be clear, I'll be reading Hiroshima regardless of what we decide to do here as the MobileRead Book Club. But I would really like to have us all read and discuss it. I think it's a worthy read, it's short, it's free, and it will provide the basis for an excellent discussion, IMHO.
I'd like to see it win for that reason as well. Even if it does not in the past with some success a separate thread to discuss an interesting book has been put up here.
issybird
08-29-2016 06:20 PM
Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today.
Not just me, then.
CRussel
08-29-2016 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamlet53
(Post 3381195)
To be clear I was not suggesting copying and distributing that online source, nor turning it into an ebook and adding it to the MR Library. I'm sure the moderators would stop that. I'll just use it as a source to read on my computer since it's so short and convenient. It's been a while but last time I tried getting an ebook from Kobo it was not possible to get a DRM free epub download. This was over a year ago though.
Fair enough, and thank you for that clarity.
As for downloading a freebie from Kobo? I just did it. I clicked on the "Download" button from the link I provided, then "View in Library", then "Return to your old library" and finally Download ePub from the dropdown list. What's downloaded is the ePub itself, not an acsm file, since Adobe isn't involved in the transaction at all. :)
CRussel
08-29-2016 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by issybird
(Post 3381196)
Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today.
Not just me, then.
Interesting. Which simply reinforces my opinion that if I want to read Heart of Darkness, I'll read it. Instead of a children's version.
bfisher
08-29-2016 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by issybird
(Post 3381196)
Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today.
Not just me, then.
Wow! :thumbsup:
JSWolf
08-29-2016 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by issybird
(Post 3381196)
Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today.
Not just me, then.
To be honest,that Reddit thread is pure crap. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a fun book to read and reading such nonsense into it is just crazy.
JSWolf
08-29-2016 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bfisher
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Wow! :thumbsup:
Not wow but nut job conspiracy theorists who have no idea what's going on.
JSWolf
08-29-2016 11:37 PM
Everyone should vote for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (ad no other book so it can win) for Gene Wilder.
Dazrin
08-30-2016 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWolf
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Everyone should vote for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (ad no other book so it can win) for Gene Wilder.
Ok, I voted for it.
I did vote for more than that one though. ;)
JSWolf
08-30-2016 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dazrin
(Post 3381404)
Ok, I voted for it.
I did vote for more than that one though. ;)
The idea is to JUST vote for Charlie so it can win in honor of Gene Wilder.
WT Sharpe
08-30-2016 01:17 AM
Don't look now, but the race is tightening up!
issybird
08-30-2016 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWolf
(Post 3381375)
Not wow but nut job conspiracy theorists who have no idea what's going on.
:rofl: I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've been called .a "nut job conspiracy theorist!"
I'm not interested in the three children's books nor 2001. Of the rest, I haven't read Phantom and shall vote for that. I'm most interested in Heart of Darkness which I've wanted to re-read for years; it's a book that has lingered in my mind. Not sure which of the others I'll vote for; I'm willing to re-read any of them. I'll have to listen, but it's one of the many, many attractions of classics that there are usually cheap options for audio books.
I'm obviously hoping for Conrad. Everyone will know that Coppola's Apocalypse Now is an updated version set during the Vietnam War and I see it's free on Amazon Prime Video, so I shall probably piggyback it onto Heart of Darkness if it wins.
Luffy
08-30-2016 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by issybird
(Post 3381447)
:rofl: I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've been called .a "nut job conspiracy theorist!"
I'm not interested in the three children's books nor 2001. Of the rest, I haven't read Phantom and shall vote for that. I'm most interested in Heart of Darkness which I've wanted to re-read for years; it's a book that has lingered in my mind. Not sure which of the others I'll vote for; I'm willing to re-read any of them. I'll have to listen, but it's one of the many, many attractions of classics that there are usually cheap options for audio books.
I'm obviously hoping for Conrad. Everyone will know that Scorcese's Apocalypse Now is an updated version set during the Vietnam War and I see it's free on Amazon Prime Video, so I shall probably piggyback it onto Heart of Darkness if it wins.
I think Apocalypse Now was made by Coppola.
issybird
08-30-2016 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Luffy
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I think Apocalypse Now was made by Coppola.
:smack: Of course you're right. Thanks!
Hamlet53
08-30-2016 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by issybird
(Post 3381447)
I'm obviously hoping for Conrad. Everyone will know that Coppola's Apocalypse Now is an updated version set during the Vietnam War and I see it's free on Amazon Prime Video, so I shall probably piggyback it onto Heart of Darkness if it wins.
The original release or Apocalypse Now Redux? I have the latter on DVD.
And in another film to book connection that may have inspired the nomination of Ben-Hur . . The recently released Hollywood remake has been panned by critics and been a failure at the box office.
WT Sharpe
08-30-2016 08:52 AM
September 2016 Book Club Vote
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Originally Posted by Hamlet53
(Post 3381622)
...And in another film to book connection that may have inspired the nomination of Ben-Hur . . The recently released Hollywood remake has been panned by critics and been a failure at the box office.
Interestingly there was no religious component whatsoever to the original (and unauthorized) version of the film. It was a short and straightforward adventure film.
bfisher
08-30-2016 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe
(Post 3381695)
Interestingly there was no religious component whatsoever to the original (and unauthorized) version of the film. It was a short and straightforward adventure film.
Why there would have been a question about authorization if Wallace died in 1905 and the film was made in 1957?
issybird
08-30-2016 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hamlet53
(Post 3381622)
The original release or Apocalypse Now Redux? I have the latter on DVD.
I was thinking of the original release, with Martin Sheen and Marlon Brando.
This entire list (with the obvious exception of Hiroshima) are books that became classic film - except not including the Disney cartoon version of Peter Pam, which is racist, misogynistic and entirely stupid (those animal costumes, why?). But the Mary Martin television performance is well worth seeing, even if not technically a film, and so is Robin Williams's Hook. I haven't seen the 2003 film, but that's a little recent to have achieved classic status in any case.
WT Sharpe
08-30-2016 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe
(Post 3381695)
Interestingly there was no religious component whatsoever to the original (and unauthorized) version of the film. It was a short and straightforward adventure film.
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Originally Posted by bfisher
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Why there would have been a question about authorization if Wallace died in 1905 and the film was made in 1957?
The 1957 film was the second remake — it had been brought to the screen twice before. The first (unauthorized) version was in 1907. It was a one-reeler made on the cheap. The owners of the copyrights to Ben Hur sued, won a hefty settlement, and the case proved pivotal in ensuring that companies must secure film rights before filming an author's works. The second version was a big budget film put out by MGM in 1925 and it was quite a spectacle. The film used all kinds of film techniques that were state of the art at the time including miniaturization and false backdrops to provide the film's special effects.
Hamlet53
08-30-2016 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by issybird
(Post 3381715)
I was thinking of the original release, with Martin Sheen and Marlon Brando.
Just for certain clarity Apocalypse Now Redux is what is generally called a directors cut version of the original. Pretty much the same film, but with some material that wound up on the editing room floor for the original added. If the Amazon broadcast is the original I'd be interested in seeing it. It's been a long time since I've seen the original.