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WT Sharpe 05-02-2016 08:03 AM

May 2016 Special Run-Off Vote
 
May 2016 Mobile Read Book Club Special Run-Off Vote

Since this month's vote resulted in a tie, we are having a Special Run-Off Vote between the leading candidates. I will not vote in this poll unless my vote is needed to break a tie. This poll will be open for 3 days, and all MobileRead members are invited to participate. Since there are more than two options, this is a visible, multiple-choice poll.

We will start the discussion thread for this book on May 20th. Please select from the following three Choices:

The Steerswoman by Rosemary Kirstein
Goodreads | Amazon Ca / Amazon UK / Amazon US / Kobo US
Print Length: 288 pages
Spoiler:
From Amazon:

Freedom of Information
If you ask, she must answer. A steerswoman's knowledge is shared with any who request it; no steerswoman may refuse a question, and no steerswoman may answer with anything but the truth.

And if she asks, you must answer. It is the other side of tradition's contract -- and if you refuse the question, or lie, no steerswoman will ever again answer even your most casual question.

And so, the steerswomen — always seeking, always investigating — have gathered more and more knowledge about the world they traveled, and they share that knowledge freely.

Until the day that the steerswoman Rowan begins asking innocent questions about one small, lovely, inexplicable object…

Her discoveries grow stranger and deeper, and more dangerous, until suddenly she finds she must flee or fight for her life. Or worse -- lie.

Because one kind of knowledge has always been denied the the steerswomen:
Magic.

Reviewers comments:

“If you haven’t read Kirstein’s Steerswoman books I envy you the chance to read them now for the first time.... I think they have a very good claim to be my favorite thing still being written. […] If you like science, and if you like watching someone work out mysteries, and if you like detailed weird alien worlds and human cultures, if really good prose appeals... you’re really in luck.” — Jo Walton, Hugo and Nebula Awards winner, author of Among Others and Farthing.

"[Kirstein] walks the tightrope between fantasy and science fiction with precision and grace... [her] compassion for even minor characters is evident on every page, and her prose is measured and alluring without being overworked." -- Damien Broderick & Paul Di Filippo, in Science Fiction: The 101 Best Novels 1985-2010


The Door Into Summer by Robert A Heinlein
Goodreads | Amazon US
Print Length: 304 pages
Spoiler:
When Dan Davis is crossed in love and stabbed in the back by his business associates, the immediate future doesn't look too bright for him and Pete, his independent-minded tomcat. Suddenly, the lure of suspended animation, the Long Sleep, becomes irresistible and Dan wakes up 30 years later in the 21st century, a time very much to his liking.
The discovery that the robot household appliances he invented have been mass produced is no surprise, but the realization that, far from having been stolen from him, they have, mysteriously, been patented in his name is. There's only one thing for it. Dan somehow has to travel back in time to investigate.
He may even find Pete ...


Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Goodreads | Amazon US
Print Length: 158 pages
Spoiler:
From Amazon:

Aldous Huxley's tour de force, Brave New World is a darkly satiric vision of a "utopian" future—where humans are genetically bred and pharmaceutically anesthetized to passively serve a ruling order. A powerful work of speculative fiction that has enthralled and terrified readers for generations, it remains remarkably relevant to this day as both a warning to be heeded as we head into tomorrow and as thought-provoking, satisfying entertainment.

fantasyfan 05-02-2016 09:18 AM

I've stuck with my nomination. Though it is an interesting novel, I'm not keen to read Brave New World once again, as I have read it several times already. Personally, I think that TDIS is one of Heinlein's best works, a standalone and a genuine classic by a Golden Age science fiction author. The Steerswoman gets some good reviews too {though some reviewers complain about unnecessary brutality}but it is the first of a series and such works tend to end with inconclusive or unresolved events.

CRussel 05-02-2016 12:12 PM

Well, even though I nominated The Steerswoman, and would really like it to win, I can also vote for The Door Into Summer. Both are good books that we will enjoy reading, IMO.

The Steerswoman has the virtue of being lesser known, and with strong female protagonists, making it rather different than classic SF. Plus the idea of the steerswomen (who do include some steersmen) is interesting and unique.

The Door into Summer is classic Heinlein, classic time travel paradoxes, and has Pixel, the cat. All good things. And while it is somewhat more expensive, it's not outside my limit, and it does have an audio edition, a plus for those who prefer to read that way.

As for BNW, I've made my views clear. I'll not be reading it, regardless.

JSWolf 05-02-2016 12:26 PM

I've read Brave New World and it wasn't worth reading.

fantasyfan 05-03-2016 06:08 PM

Things are looking up for The Steerswoman. I've downloaded it as it is one I'll certainly read at some point even if it doesn't win.

CRussel 05-04-2016 01:58 AM

FYI, that's Steerswoman, not Steerwoman, but otherwise, I agree, it's looking hopeful. Still early, though.

fantasyfan 05-04-2016 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRussel (Post 3311229)
FYI, that's Steerswoman, not Steerwoman.

Right! :smack::thumbsup:

CRussel 05-04-2016 11:55 PM

Question for the group -- If The Steerswoman wins, which is seeming likely right now, would folks like me to invite Ms. Kirstein to join us for the discussion? I know it's not typical, and I have no idea if she is either willing or able, but she might be, and it might be interesting. OTOH, if folks don't like the idea, I won't even pose it to her. (She is not, so far as I'm aware, a current MR member.)

din155 05-05-2016 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRussel (Post 3311836)
Question for the group -- If The Steerswoman wins, which is seeming likely right now, would folks like me to invite Ms. Kirstein to join us for the discussion? I know it's not typical, and I have no idea if she is either willing or able, but she might be, and it might be interesting. OTOH, if folks don't like the idea, I won't even pose it to her. (She is not, so far as I'm aware, a current MR member.)

As long as she doesn't use magic against us in case we have any bad things to say about the book :). I think it's a very good suggestion.

WT Sharpe 05-05-2016 07:44 AM

I have no problem with that.

CRussel 05-05-2016 11:36 AM

Then I'll ask. Meanwhile, I've started my re-read of the book, and it's sucking me in, demanding I find time to read. :)

WT Sharpe 05-05-2016 05:12 PM

Time to buy The Steerswoman.

issybird 05-05-2016 05:25 PM

I read it when I thought it was going to lose!

CRussel 05-05-2016 09:25 PM

Welcome back, issybird. You didn't read it in vain, then, since it won, much to my surprise. :) I started reading it last night in the hotel, read it during dinner, then at breakfast and finally finished it as my flight was touching down in Toronto.

treadlightly 05-06-2016 09:26 AM

I'm starting today! Luckily I had bought it some time ago on sale or with a good kobo coupon, I can't remember.


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CRussel 05-07-2016 02:34 AM

The following back from Rosemary Kirstein:

Quote:

What lovely news! When I read your email, I immediately thought that it would be great fun to follow along in the discussion, and occasionally comment …

But then, I thought about it, and something occurred to me. If the book club members knew that the author was reading everything they said, would some of them feel a bit hesitant to speak honestly? Although it would be nice if everyone loved my book, I’d really like it if people also felt totally free to hate my book! And to talk about it, and get in arguments about it with each other!

I wouldn’t want my presence to have a dampening effect on the discussion. You know these people; what’s your impression on this? Do they know that you’ve asked me? Are they expressing any opinions about the possibility?

Thanks for the invitation – let me know what you (and they) think.
Based on the comments so far, I responded that I thought we could have a good discussion with her present, and that I at least was interested to have a "primary source" to discuss with. But if folks do feel that they couldn't be honest and forthright with the author listening, speak up, please.

JSWolf 05-07-2016 05:27 AM

I have no problem being honest. I just grabbed the book from Overdrive and once I finish the book I am reading in a day or two, I'll start on [i]The Steerswoman[/i.

WT Sharpe 05-07-2016 09:43 AM

I'm all for it. It would be an interesting experiment. We've had comments both pro and con on the works of other MobileRead authors in other threads, but I don't recall ever having an author joining for the express purpose of participating in a thread in the MobileRead Book Club.

issybird 05-07-2016 10:22 AM

Thank you, Charlie. I think this is a wonderful plan.

I'd just like to hope people will make a point of reading and showing up for the discussion. This has the potential to be a blast.

CRussel 05-07-2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by issybird (Post 3313326)
Thank you, Charlie. I think this is a wonderful plan.

I'd just like to hope people will make a point of reading and showing up for the discussion. This has the potential to be a blast.

I hope so too. I know I have one hard question to ask and this is a good venue for that.

Dazrin 05-07-2016 02:07 PM

Early on in the book club I think there was at least one author who joined the discussions, he may have been already a member but it still went well it appears.

WT Sharpe 05-07-2016 02:57 PM

Looks like he's been a member for a year when that discussion took place.

JSWolf 05-07-2016 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by issybird (Post 3313326)
Thank you, Charlie. I think this is a wonderful plan.

I'd just like to hope people will make a point of reading and showing up for the discussion. This has the potential to be a blast.

I agree and I'll be there if I can. I'm away on the 19th for six days. But I should have WiFi access at night and/or late afternoon so I should be able to participate somewhat. I'll be starting the book probably Tuesday.

caleb72 05-07-2016 10:42 PM

It would be good to have the discussion with the author present. It's true that I might be slightly more diplomatic with the author present, but no less honest.

CRussel 05-07-2016 11:30 PM

I think that's exactly what any author would want, frankly. Honest opinions expressed without venom, and especially if backed by specifics, are actually quite helpful. Blanket "it sucked" is, however, rather useless and counter productive. But equally "it's perfect" is equally useless and counter productive, though perhaps easier on the ego. :)

John F 05-08-2016 06:55 AM

Another thread where the author participated:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=103214

Hampshire Nanny 05-09-2016 10:48 PM

I'm joining the book club this month. Bought a copy of The Steerswoman and started reading it this afternoon. It had a good beginning and I have a lot of hope for it to continue to keep me engaged.

CRussel 05-10-2016 01:56 AM

Welcome! As are any others, of course.

FYI, Ms. Kirstein has replied that she would be joining us for the discussion. Should be fun!

din155 05-10-2016 07:33 AM

Looking forward to it. I don't discuss much but will be interesting discussion to watch. The book itself has been very gripping so far..!

JSWolf 05-11-2016 04:35 PM

This is ridiculous. The Steerswoman is FANTASY and should never have been nominated let alone win. I do think there's enough time to dump it and go with The Door into Summer.

I want to know why this sort of thing is allowed.

CRussel 05-11-2016 04:38 PM

Jon, You'll note that I said at the time of nomination that it appears to be fantasy, but is, in fact, science fiction. I still think that is true. (And I read a fair amount of both, so feel qualified to have an opinion on it.)

JSWolf 05-11-2016 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRussel (Post 3315911)
Jon, You'll note that I said at the time of nomination that it appears to be fantasy, but is, in fact, science fiction. I still think that is true. (And I read a fair amount of both, so feel qualified to have an opinion on it.)

What makes it science fiction and not fantasy?

CRussel 05-11-2016 04:42 PM

Too much of a spoiler to answer. That will have to wait until we have our discussion. When you can bring this up then, if you still think so.

JSWolf 05-11-2016 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRussel (Post 3315915)
Too much of a spoiler to answer. That will have to wait until we have our discussion. When you can bring this up then, if you still think so.

OK. I'll see what I think as I'm going to be starting it today.


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