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WT Sharpe 08-20-2015 03:18 AM

September 2015 Book Club Nominations
 
Help us select the book that the MobileRead Book Club will read for September, 2015.

The nominations will run through midnight EST August 26 or until 10 books have made the list. The poll will then be posted and will remain open for five days.

Book selection category for September is: Banned or Challenged Books

In order for a book to be included in the poll it needs THREE NOMINATIONS (original nomination, a second and a third).

How Does This Work?
The Mobile Read Book Club (MRBC) is an informal club that requires nothing of you. Each month a book is selected by polling. On the last week of that month a discussion thread is started for the book. If you want to participate feel free. There is no need to "join" or sign up. All are welcome.

How Does a Book Get Selected?
Each book that is nominated will be listed in a poll at the end of the nomination period. The book that polls the most votes will be the official selection.

How Many Nominations Can I Make?
Each participant has 3 nominations. You can nominate a new book for consideration or nominate (second, third) one that has already been nominated by another person.

How Do I Nominate a Book?
Please just post a message with your nomination. If you are the FIRST to nominate a book, please try to provide an abstract to the book so others may consider their level of interest.

How Do I Know What Has Been Nominated?
Just follow the thread. This message will be updated with the status of the nominations as often as I can. If one is missed, please just post a message with a multi-quote of the 3 nominations and it will be added to the list ASAP.

When is the Poll?
The poll thread will open at the end of the nomination period, or once there have been 10 books with 3 nominations each. At that time a link to the initial poll thread will be posted here and this thread will be closed.

The floor is open to nominations. Please comment if you discover a nomination is not available as an ebook in your area.


Official choices with three nominations each:

(1) Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (UK title: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone) by J.K. Rowling
Goodreads
Spoiler:
Harry, an orphan, lives with the Dursleys, his horrible aunt and uncle, and their abominable son, Dudley.

One day just before his eleventh birthday, an owl tries to deliver a mysterious letter the first of a sequence of events that end in Harry meeting a giant man named Hagrid. Hagrid explains Harry's history to him: When he was a baby, the Dark wizard, Lord Voldemort, attacked and killed his parents in an attempt to kill Harry; but the only mark on Harry was a mysterious lightning-bolt scar on his forehead.

Now he has been invited to attend Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, where the headmaster is the great wizard Albus Dumbledore. Harry visits Diagon Alley to get his school supplies, especially his very own wand. To get to school, he takes the Hogwarts Express from platform nine and three-quarters at King's Cross Station. On the train, he meets two fellow students who will become his closest friends: Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger.

Harry is assigned to Gryffindor House at Hogwarts, and soon becomes the youngest-ever Seeker on the House Quidditch team. He also studies Potions with Professor Severus Snape, who displays a deep and abiding dislike for Harry, and Defense Against the Dark Arts with nervous Professor Quirrell; he and his friends defeat a mountain troll, help Hagrid raise a dragon, and explore the wonderful, fascinating world of Hogwarts.

But all events lead irrevocably toward a second encounter with Lord Voldemort, who seeks an object of legend known as the Sorcerer's Stone.


(2) The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky
Goodreads | Amazon US
Spoiler:
Read the cult-favorite coming of age story that takes a sometimes heartbreaking, often hysterical, and always honest look at high school in all its glory. Now a major motion picture starring Logan Lerman and Emma Watson, The Perks of Being a Wallflower is a funny, touching, and haunting modern classic.

The critically acclaimed debut novel from Stephen Chbosky, Perks follows observant “wallflower” Charlie as he charts a course through the strange world between adolescence and adulthood. First dates, family drama, and new friends. Sex, drugs, and The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Devastating loss, young love, and life on the fringes. Caught between trying to live his life and trying to run from it, Charlie must learn to navigate those wild and poignant roller-coaster days known as growing up.

A #1 New York Times best seller for more than a year, an American Library Association Best Book for Young Adults (2000) and Best Book for Reluctant Readers (2000), and with millions of copies in print, this novel for teen readers (or “wallflowers” of more-advanced age) will make you laugh, cry, and perhaps feel nostalgic for those moments when you, too, tiptoed onto the dance floor of life.


(3) The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things by Carolyn Mackler
Goodreads | Amazon US
Spoiler:
From Wikipedia:

Virginia "Ginny" Shreves is an overweight, self-conscious sophomore at a private high school in Manhattan. She has a make out buddy, Froggy Welsh the Fourth, and she doesn't want him (or anyone, for that matter) to see her fat. She hides her fat by wearing baggy clothing. Early in the novel, she doesn't really know how she feels about Froggy, but later she starts to see herself in a new light and realizes that she actually likes this guy she has been fooling around with. Her mother, Dr. Phyllis Shreves, is an adolescent psychologist who is obsessed with her daughter's weight, while her father is always complimenting skinny girls and making her feel unsatisfactory. Her older sister, Anais, joined the Peace Corps and moved to Africa in order to escape her mother, whom she calls The Queen of Denial. Her older brother, Byron, whom she idolizes, was suspended from Columbia University for committing date rape. This event forced her to completely reevaluate her opinion of her big brother.


(4) The Golden Compass (UK title: The Northern Lights) the first volume in the His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman
Goodreads | Amazon UK / Amazon US
Spoiler:
Lyra's life is already sufficiently interesting for a novel before she eavesdrops on a presentation by her uncle Lord Asriel to his colleagues in the Jordan College faculty, Oxford. The college, famed for its leadership in experimental theology, is funding Lord Asriel's research into the heretical possibility of the existence of worlds unlike Lyra's own, where everyone is born with a familiar animal companion, magic of a kind works, the Tartars are threatening to overrun Muscovy, and the Pope is a puritanical Protestant. Set in an England familiar and strange, Philip Pullman's lively, taut story is a must-read and re-read for fantasy lovers of all ages. The world-building is outstanding, from the subtle hints of the 1898 Tokay to odd quirks of language to the panserbjorne, while determined, clever Lyra is strongly reminiscent of Joan Aiken's Dido Twite.


(5) Candide by Voltaire
Goodreads
Spoiler:
Candide is the story of a gentle man who, though pummeled and slapped in every direction by fate, clings desperately to the belief that he lives in "the best of all possible worlds." On the surface a witty, bantering tale, this eighteenth-century classic is actually a savage, satiric thrust at the philosophical optimism that proclaims that all disaster and human suffering is part of a benevolent cosmic plan. Fast, funny, often outrageous, the French philosopher's immortal narrative takes Candide around the world to discover that -- contrary to the teachings of his distringuished tutor Dr. Pangloss -- all is not always for the best. Alive with wit, brilliance, and graceful storytelling, Candide has become Voltaire's most celebrated work.


(6) Can Such Things Be? by Ambrose Bierce
Goodreads
Spoiler:
Ambrose Bierce never owned a horse, a carriage, or a car; he was a renter who never owned his own home. He was a man on the move, a man who traveled light: and in the end he rode, with all of his possessions, on a rented horse into the Mexican desert to join Pancho Villa -- never to return. Can Such Things Be? Once William Randolph Hearst -- Bierce's employer, who was bragging about his own endless collections of statuary, art, books, tapestries, and, of course real estate like Hearst Castle -- once William Randolph Hearst asked Bierce what he collected. Bierce responded, smugly: "I collect words. And ideas. Like you, I also store them. But in the reservoir of my mind. I can take them out and display them at a moment's notice. Eminently portable, Mr. Hearst. And I don't find it necessary to show them all at the same time." Such things "can" be. twenty-four tales of the weird by Ambrose Bierce, renowned master of the macabre.


(7) One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn
Goodreads | Amazon UK / Amazon US
Spoiler:
From Goodreads:

First published in the Soviet journal Novy Mir in 1962, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich stands as a classic of contemporary literature. The story of labor-camp inmate Ivan Denisovich Shukhov, it graphically describes his struggle to maintain his dignity in the face of communist oppression. An unforgettable portrait of the entire world of Stalin's forced work camps, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich is one of the most extraordinary literary documents to have emerged from the Soviet Union and confirms Solzhenitsyn's stature as "a literary genius whose talent matches that of Dosotevsky, Turgenev, Tolstoy"--Harrison Salisbury

Book Extract:

As usual, at five o'clock that morning reveille was sounded by the blows of a hammer on a length of rail hanging up near the staff quarters. The intermittent sound barely penetrated the window-panes on which the frost lay two fingers thick, and they ended almost as soon as they'd begun. It was cold outside, and the camp-guard was reluctant to go on beating out the reveille for long.

The clanging ceased, but everything outside still looked like the middle of the night when Ivan Denisovich Shukhov got up to go to the bucket. It was pitch dark except for the yellow light cast on the window by three lamps - two in the outer zone, one inside the camp itself.

And no one came to unbolt the barrack-hut door; there was no sound of the barrack-orderlies pushing a pole into place to lift the barrel of nightsoil and carry it out.

Longer Extract


(8) Beloved by Toni Morrison
Goodreads
Spoiler:
From Amazon:

Quote:

Staring unflinchingly into the abyss of slavery, this spellbinding novel transforms history into a story as powerful as Exodus and as intimate as a lullaby. ... Filled with bitter poetry and suspense as taut as a rope, Beloved is a towering achievement.
A quick search for "Beloved banned" turned up:

Quote:

... But Toni Morrison’s “Beloved,” Murphy said, depicts scenes of bestiality, gang rape and an infant’s gruesome murder, content she believes could be too intense for teenage readers. ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...e79_story.html


(9) The Castle by Franz Kafka
Goodreads
Spoiler:
A remote village covered almost permanently in snow and dominated by a castle and its staff of dictatorial, sexually predatory bureaucrats - this is the setting for Kafka's story about a man seeking both acceptance in the village and access to the castle. Kafka breaks new ground in evoking a dense village community fraught with tensions, and recounting an often poignant, occasionally farcical love-affair. He also explores the relation between the individual and power, and asks why the villagers so readily submit to an authority which may exist only in their collective imagination.


(10) Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler
Goodreads | Amazon US
Spoiler:
Madman, tyrant, animal - history has given Adolf Hitler many names. In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), often called the Nazi bible, Hitler describes his life, frustrations, ideals, and dreams.


The nominations are now closed.

WT Sharpe 08-20-2015 03:19 AM

Wondering if a particular book is available in your country? The following spoiler contains a list of bookstores outside the United States you can search. If you don't see a bookstore on this list for your country, find one that is, send me the link via PM, and I'll add it to the list. EDIT: Also, if you find one on the list that is no longer in operation, let me know and I'll remove it from the list.

Spoiler:
Australian
Angus Robertson
Booktopia
Borders
Dymocks
Fishpond
Google

Canada
Amazon. Make sure you are logged out. Then go to the Kindle Store. Search for a book. After the search results come up, in the upper right corner of the screen, change the country to Canada and search away.
Google
Sony eBookstore (Upper right corner switch to/from US/CA)

UK
BooksOnBoard (In the upper right corner is a way to switch to the UK store)
Amazon
Foyle's
Google
Penguin
Random House
Waterstones
WH Smith


*** Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (UK title: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone) by J.K. Rowling [JSWolf, Rbneader, PandathePanda]
Goodreads
Spoiler:
Harry, an orphan, lives with the Dursleys, his horrible aunt and uncle, and their abominable son, Dudley.

One day just before his eleventh birthday, an owl tries to deliver a mysterious letter the first of a sequence of events that end in Harry meeting a giant man named Hagrid. Hagrid explains Harry's history to him: When he was a baby, the Dark wizard, Lord Voldemort, attacked and killed his parents in an attempt to kill Harry; but the only mark on Harry was a mysterious lightning-bolt scar on his forehead.

Now he has been invited to attend Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, where the headmaster is the great wizard Albus Dumbledore. Harry visits Diagon Alley to get his school supplies, especially his very own wand. To get to school, he takes the Hogwarts Express from platform nine and three-quarters at King's Cross Station. On the train, he meets two fellow students who will become his closest friends: Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger.

Harry is assigned to Gryffindor House at Hogwarts, and soon becomes the youngest-ever Seeker on the House Quidditch team. He also studies Potions with Professor Severus Snape, who displays a deep and abiding dislike for Harry, and Defense Against the Dark Arts with nervous Professor Quirrell; he and his friends defeat a mountain troll, help Hagrid raise a dragon, and explore the wonderful, fascinating world of Hogwarts.

But all events lead irrevocably toward a second encounter with Lord Voldemort, who seeks an object of legend known as the Sorcerer's Stone.


*** The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky [PandathePanda, John F, Hamlet53]
Goodreads | Amazon US
Spoiler:
Read the cult-favorite coming of age story that takes a sometimes heartbreaking, often hysterical, and always honest look at high school in all its glory. Now a major motion picture starring Logan Lerman and Emma Watson, The Perks of Being a Wallflower is a funny, touching, and haunting modern classic.

The critically acclaimed debut novel from Stephen Chbosky, Perks follows observant “wallflower” Charlie as he charts a course through the strange world between adolescence and adulthood. First dates, family drama, and new friends. Sex, drugs, and The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Devastating loss, young love, and life on the fringes. Caught between trying to live his life and trying to run from it, Charlie must learn to navigate those wild and poignant roller-coaster days known as growing up.

A #1 New York Times best seller for more than a year, an American Library Association Best Book for Young Adults (2000) and Best Book for Reluctant Readers (2000), and with millions of copies in print, this novel for teen readers (or “wallflowers” of more-advanced age) will make you laugh, cry, and perhaps feel nostalgic for those moments when you, too, tiptoed onto the dance floor of life.


*** Beloved by Toni Morrison [John F, Nyssa, HomeInMyShoes]
Goodreads
Spoiler:
From Amazon:

Quote:

Staring unflinchingly into the abyss of slavery, this spellbinding novel transforms history into a story as powerful as Exodus and as intimate as a lullaby. ... Filled with bitter poetry and suspense as taut as a rope, Beloved is a towering achievement.
A quick search for "Beloved banned" turned up:

Quote:

... But Toni Morrison’s “Beloved,” Murphy said, depicts scenes of bestiality, gang rape and an infant’s gruesome murder, content she believes could be too intense for teenage readers. ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...e79_story.html


*** The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things by Carolyn Mackler [Hamlet53, Dazrin, WT Sharpe]
Goodreads | Amazon US
Spoiler:
From Wikipedia:

Virginia "Ginny" Shreves is an overweight, self-conscious sophomore at a private high school in Manhattan. She has a make out buddy, Froggy Welsh the Fourth, and she doesn't want him (or anyone, for that matter) to see her fat. She hides her fat by wearing baggy clothing. Early in the novel, she doesn't really know how she feels about Froggy, but later she starts to see herself in a new light and realizes that she actually likes this guy she has been fooling around with. Her mother, Dr. Phyllis Shreves, is an adolescent psychologist who is obsessed with her daughter's weight, while her father is always complimenting skinny girls and making her feel unsatisfactory. Her older sister, Anais, joined the Peace Corps and moved to Africa in order to escape her mother, whom she calls The Queen of Denial. Her older brother, Byron, whom she idolizes, was suspended from Columbia University for committing date rape. This event forced her to completely reevaluate her opinion of her big brother.


*** The Golden Compass (UK title: The Northern Lights) the first volume in the His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman [BenG, treadlightly, Nyssa]
Goodreads | Amazon UK / Amazon US
Spoiler:
Lyra's life is already sufficiently interesting for a novel before she eavesdrops on a presentation by her uncle Lord Asriel to his colleagues in the Jordan College faculty, Oxford. The college, famed for its leadership in experimental theology, is funding Lord Asriel's research into the heretical possibility of the existence of worlds unlike Lyra's own, where everyone is born with a familiar animal companion, magic of a kind works, the Tartars are threatening to overrun Muscovy, and the Pope is a puritanical Protestant. Set in an England familiar and strange, Philip Pullman's lively, taut story is a must-read and re-read for fantasy lovers of all ages. The world-building is outstanding, from the subtle hints of the 1898 Tokay to odd quirks of language to the panserbjorne, while determined, clever Lyra is strongly reminiscent of Joan Aiken's Dido Twite.


*** Candide by Voltaire [issybird, sun surfer, Almamida]
Goodreads
Spoiler:
Candide is the story of a gentle man who, though pummeled and slapped in every direction by fate, clings desperately to the belief that he lives in "the best of all possible worlds." On the surface a witty, bantering tale, this eighteenth-century classic is actually a savage, satiric thrust at the philosophical optimism that proclaims that all disaster and human suffering is part of a benevolent cosmic plan. Fast, funny, often outrageous, the French philosopher's immortal narrative takes Candide around the world to discover that -- contrary to the teachings of his distringuished tutor Dr. Pangloss -- all is not always for the best. Alive with wit, brilliance, and graceful storytelling, Candide has become Voltaire's most celebrated work.


*** Can Such Things Be? by Ambrose Bierce [issybird, Hamlet53, bfisher]
Goodreads | Patricia Clark Memorial Library: Kindle | Amazon US / Amazon UK
Spoiler:
Ambrose Bierce never owned a horse, a carriage, or a car; he was a renter who never owned his own home. He was a man on the move, a man who traveled light: and in the end he rode, with all of his possessions, on a rented horse into the Mexican desert to join Pancho Villa -- never to return. Can Such Things Be? Once William Randolph Hearst -- Bierce's employer, who was bragging about his own endless collections of statuary, art, books, tapestries, and, of course real estate like Hearst Castle -- once William Randolph Hearst asked Bierce what he collected. Bierce responded, smugly: "I collect words. And ideas. Like you, I also store them. But in the reservoir of my mind. I can take them out and display them at a moment's notice. Eminently portable, Mr. Hearst. And I don't find it necessary to show them all at the same time." Such things "can" be. twenty-four tales of the weird by Ambrose Bierce, renowned master of the macabre.


*** The Castle by Franz Kafka [issybird, sun surfer, Dazrin]
Goodreads
Spoiler:
A remote village covered almost permanently in snow and dominated by a castle and its staff of dictatorial, sexually predatory bureaucrats - this is the setting for Kafka's story about a man seeking both acceptance in the village and access to the castle. Kafka breaks new ground in evoking a dense village community fraught with tensions, and recounting an often poignant, occasionally farcical love-affair. He also explores the relation between the individual and power, and asks why the villagers so readily submit to an authority which may exist only in their collective imagination.


*** One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn [sun surfer, bfisher, fantasyfan]
Goodreads | Amazon UK / Amazon US
Spoiler:
From Goodreads:

First published in the Soviet journal Novy Mir in 1962, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich stands as a classic of contemporary literature. The story of labor-camp inmate Ivan Denisovich Shukhov, it graphically describes his struggle to maintain his dignity in the face of communist oppression. An unforgettable portrait of the entire world of Stalin's forced work camps, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich is one of the most extraordinary literary documents to have emerged from the Soviet Union and confirms Solzhenitsyn's stature as "a literary genius whose talent matches that of Dosotevsky, Turgenev, Tolstoy"--Harrison Salisbury

Book Extract:

As usual, at five o'clock that morning reveille was sounded by the blows of a hammer on a length of rail hanging up near the staff quarters. The intermittent sound barely penetrated the window-panes on which the frost lay two fingers thick, and they ended almost as soon as they'd begun. It was cold outside, and the camp-guard was reluctant to go on beating out the reveille for long.

The clanging ceased, but everything outside still looked like the middle of the night when Ivan Denisovich Shukhov got up to go to the bucket. It was pitch dark except for the yellow light cast on the window by three lamps - two in the outer zone, one inside the camp itself.

And no one came to unbolt the barrack-hut door; there was no sound of the barrack-orderlies pushing a pole into place to lift the barrel of nightsoil and carry it out.

Longer Extract


*** Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler [PandathePanda, caleb72, fantasyfan]
Goodreads | Amazon US
Spoiler:
Madman, tyrant, animal - history has given Adolf Hitler many names. In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), often called the Nazi bible, Hitler describes his life, frustrations, ideals, and dreams.


The nominations are now closed.

JSWolf 08-20-2015 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 3154814)
Wondering if a particular book is available in your country? The following spoiler contains a list of bookstores outside the United States you can search. If you don't see a bookstore on this list for your country, find one that is, send me the link via PM, and I'll add it to the list.

Spoiler:
Australian
Angus Robertson
Booktopia
Borders
Dymocks
Fishpond
Google

Canada
Amazon. Make sure you are logged out. Then go to the Kindle Store. Search for a book. After the search results come up, in the upper right corner of the screen, change the country to Canada and search away.
Google
Sony eBookstore (Upper right corner switch to/from US/CA)

UK
BooksOnBoard (In the upper right corner is a way to switch to the UK store)
Amazon
Foyle's
Google
Penguin
Random House
Waterstones
WH Smith


Placeholder for nominations.

You need to double check that list of shops to make sure they are updated and that all are still operating. Some are no like BooksOnBoard and when the link is clicked, you get a warning about it (at least in Firefox).

Dazrin 08-20-2015 07:08 PM

This is another category I am not sad to see disappear for 2016. In looking at my books for the last few years the titles I have read that have been banned/excluded somewhere at sometime include: The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the Harry Potter series, the Hunger Games series, Anne of Green Gables, Ender's Game, etc. No real surprises. ;)

I don't have any nominations yet but here are some links that may help others find things that are interesting too:
100 Most Frequently Banned Books - Lists for 1990-1999 and 2000-2009
Banned and Challenged Classics
Goodreads lists of banned books
Wikipedia list of books banned by governments
Most surprising banned books
Banned "children's" books

This title made me laugh: The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things, by Carolyn Mackler

At this point, I am leaning towards nominating Winnie the Pooh but I need to look a bit more.

JSWolf 08-20-2015 07:11 PM

I'm currently on vacation until next week so the links for what shops carry this will have to wait.

I'm nominating Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone or as it's called in the UK Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.

Quote:

Harry, an orphan, lives with the Dursleys, his horrible aunt and uncle, and their abominable son, Dudley.

One day just before his eleventh birthday, an owl tries to deliver a mysterious letter the first of a sequence of events that end in Harry meeting a giant man named Hagrid. Hagrid explains Harry's history to him: When he was a baby, the Dark wizard, Lord Voldemort, attacked and killed his parents in an attempt to kill Harry; but the only mark on Harry was a mysterious lightning-bolt scar on his forehead.

Now he has been invited to attend Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, where the headmaster is the great wizard Albus Dumbledore. Harry visits Diagon Alley to get his school supplies, especially his very own wand. To get to school, he takes the Hogwarts Express from platform nine and three-quarters at King's Cross Station. On the train, he meets two fellow students who will become his closest friends: Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger.

Harry is assigned to Gryffindor House at Hogwarts, and soon becomes the youngest-ever Seeker on the House Quidditch team. He also studies Potions with Professor Severus Snape, who displays a deep and abiding dislike for Harry, and Defense Against the Dark Arts with nervous Professor Quirrell; he and his friends defeat a mountain troll, help Hagrid raise a dragon, and explore the wonderful, fascinating world of Hogwarts.

But all events lead irrevocably toward a second encounter with Lord Voldemort, who seeks an object of legend known as the Sorcerer's Stone.

Rbneader 08-20-2015 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3155227)
I'm currently on vacation until next week so the links for what shops carry this will have to wait.

I'm nominating Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone or as it's called in the UK Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.

Second this.

PandathePanda 08-21-2015 12:35 AM

Me'll Third Harry Potter

And I'll Nominate:
The Perks of Being a Wallflower, by Stephen Chbosky

Quote:

Read the cult-favorite coming of age story that takes a sometimes heartbreaking, often hysterical, and always honest look at high school in all its glory. Now a major motion picture starring Logan Lerman and Emma Watson, The Perks of Being a Wallflower is a funny, touching, and haunting modern classic.

The critically acclaimed debut novel from Stephen Chbosky, Perks follows observant “wallflower” Charlie as he charts a course through the strange world between adolescence and adulthood. First dates, family drama, and new friends. Sex, drugs, and The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Devastating loss, young love, and life on the fringes. Caught between trying to live his life and trying to run from it, Charlie must learn to navigate those wild and poignant roller-coaster days known as growing up.

A #1 New York Times best seller for more than a year, an American Library Association Best Book for Young Adults (2000) and Best Book for Reluctant Readers (2000), and with millions of copies in print, this novel for teen readers (or “wallflowers” of more-advanced age) will make you laugh, cry, and perhaps feel nostalgic for those moments when you, too, tiptoed onto the dance floor of life.
http://www.amazon.com/Perks-Being-Wa.../dp/B003TSEEDY
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...g_a_Wallflower

John F 08-21-2015 08:03 AM

I'll nominate Beloved by Toni Morrison.

From Amazon:

Quote:

Staring unflinchingly into the abyss of slavery, this spellbinding novel transforms history into a story as powerful as Exodus and as intimate as a lullaby. ... Filled with bitter poetry and suspense as taut as a rope, Beloved is a towering achievement.
A quick search for "Beloved banned" turned up:

Quote:

... But Toni Morrison’s “Beloved,” Murphy said, depicts scenes of bestiality, gang rape and an infant’s gruesome murder, content she believes could be too intense for teenage readers. ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...e79_story.html

Available at libraries everywhere.*

John F 08-21-2015 08:32 AM

I'll second The Perks of Being a Wallflower.

WT Sharpe 08-21-2015 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3155223)
You need to double check that list of shops to make sure they are updated and that all are still operating. Some are no like BooksOnBoard and when the link is clicked, you get a warning about it (at least in Firefox).

See the edit.

WT Sharpe 08-21-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazrin (Post 3155225)
This is another category I am not sad to see disappear for 2016. In looking at my books for the last few years the titles I have read that have been banned/excluded somewhere at sometime include: The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the Harry Potter series, the Hunger Games series, Anne of Green Gables, Ender's Game, etc. No real surprises. ;)

I don't have any nominations yet but here are some links that may help others find things that are interesting too:
100 Most Frequently Banned Books - Lists for 1990-1999 and 2000-2009
Banned and Challenged Classics
Goodreads lists of banned books
Wikipedia list of books banned by governments
Most surprising banned books
Banned "children's" books

This title made me laugh: The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things, by Carolyn Mackler

At this point, I am leaning towards nominating Winnie the Pooh but I need to look a bit more.

The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things by Carolyn Mackler was banned for sexual content and profanity by Carroll County Maryland superintendent Charles I. Ecker. If you want to nominate it, I'll second it, as it has some pretty good ratings at Amazon and Goodreads.

JSWolf 08-21-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 3155626)
See the edit.

I just saw the edit and it's still not edited. The list of shops is still not double checked and the ones that need to be removed removed.

WT Sharpe 08-21-2015 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3155635)
I just saw the edit and it's still not edited. The list of shops is still not double checked and the ones that need to be removed removed.

What are you waiting for?

Hamlet53 08-21-2015 03:36 PM

Harry Potter? Banned by whom and when and where?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 3155633)
The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things by Carolyn Mackler was banned for sexual content and profanity by Carroll County Maryland superintendent Charles I. Ecker. If you want to nominate it, I'll second it, as it has some pretty good ratings at Amazon and Goodreads.

I'll nominate it. :D

Hamlet53 08-21-2015 03:37 PM

I'll third The Perks of Being a Wallflower.

Dazrin 08-21-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet53 (Post 3155679)
I'll nominate it. :D

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 3155633)
The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things by Carolyn Mackler was banned for sexual content and profanity by Carroll County Maryland superintendent Charles I. Ecker. If you want to nominate it, I'll second it, as it has some pretty good ratings at Amazon and Goodreads.

Although it isn't my normal type of book and I haven't checked availability from my library, which would be a per-requisite for me to actually read it, I will first it/third it, whatever. Part of the reason I try to participate is to get myself out of my comfort zone, this ought to be sufficient. I will try to get some links and a description later unless someone beats me to it.

As for Harry Potter, they were banned or at least challenged all over the place because ... reasons.
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The most prominent objections to Harry Potter fall into three categories: they promote witchcraft; they set bad examples; and they're too dark.
Here is one link about it, there are many: http://www.infoplease.com/spot/banned-harry.html

WT Sharpe 08-21-2015 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet53 (Post 3155679)
Harry Potter? Banned by whom and when and where?



I'll nominate it. :D

Thirded.

Nyssa 08-21-2015 11:12 PM

I'll 2nd Beloved.

I actually tried reading it either in Jr. High or Highschool, and remember being haunted by the imagery to the point that I couldn't continue. I only read a few chapters at that time, so it'll be interesting (should it win) to see if I can finish now - oh so many years later.

WT Sharpe 08-21-2015 11:44 PM

I was thinking of adding a vote to Beloved, but I see Sun Surfer rated it only two stars at Goodreads, so I think I'll pass; at least for now.

Almamida 08-22-2015 12:42 AM

Oh! Oh! Oh!
I have just seen "Harry Potter" with 3 nominations in this thread, thanks to the news on the frontpage.
As I'm reading this one, but don't know what it means. I didn't participated in a book club but as far as I understand, you chose some books, read them and discuss about it, right ?
I'll happily participate if the fact I already started reading it doesn't exclude me. :)

Dazrin 08-22-2015 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Almamida (Post 3155897)
Oh! Oh! Oh!
I have just seen "Harry Potter" with 3 nominations in this thread, thanks to the news on the frontpage.
As I'm reading this one, but don't know what it means. I didn't participated in a book club but as far as I understand, you chose some books, read them and discuss about it, right ?
I'll happily participate if the fact I already started reading it doesn't exclude me. :)

Welcome!

You aren't too late at all, right now we are still deciding what to read for September. The theme is "Banned or Challenged" works and Harry Potter is the most commonly banned or challenged work of the last couple decades (and lots of people here have enjoyed it!). This book club is rather informal, you can join in any time you like and participate in as many or as few discussions as you want to.

You can read the first post for more detailed information but basically how this works is on the 20th of the month prior to a discussion we start getting nominations. When we have 10 nominations we vote and choose one for the next month. On the 20th of the month we start discussing. That gives us about 3 weeks to read the book before we discuss it and we can all discuss it at one time. Faster readers can just start later and try to time completion with the 20th.

Almamida 08-22-2015 10:29 AM

Thanks :)
I reread after posting and understood the rules : You nominate up to 10 books and after there is a poll to determine which book is selected.
That can be a great chalenge for me and in other hand a good way to choose a book and read it/discuss about it.

By the way, I didn't know Harry Potter Series was banned, that's why I think I didn't understand the first post entirely. After a search on the web, I had a confirmation... :inquisiti
I'm in :book2:

JSWolf 08-22-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet53 (Post 3155679)
Harry Potter? Banned by whom and when and where?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/693779.stm

quote]A primary school head teacher is banning pupils from reading the best-selling Harry Potter children's books because she says they go against the Bible's teachings.[/quote]

And Harry Potter has been challenged as well.

BenG 08-22-2015 07:11 PM

I'll nominate The Golden Compass (The Northern Lights in the UK), the first volume in the His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman.

Sometimes banned or contested because of a perceived anti-religion bias, though that's almost entirely in the later books. It's sort of the anti-Narnia. (Plus it has armored bears! I loved the armored bears. :) )

Amazon US: http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Compass...=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Northern-Lig...orthern+lights

Edit to add summary:
Spoiler:

Lyra's life is already sufficiently interesting for a novel before she eavesdrops on a presentation by her uncle Lord Asriel to his colleagues in the Jordan College faculty, Oxford. The college, famed for its leadership in experimental theology, is funding Lord Asriel's research into the heretical possibility of the existence of worlds unlike Lyra's own, where everyone is born with a familiar animal companion, magic of a kind works, the Tartars are threatening to overrun Muscovy, and the Pope is a puritanical Protestant. Set in an England familiar and strange, Philip Pullman's lively, taut story is a must-read and re-read for fantasy lovers of all ages. The world-building is outstanding, from the subtle hints of the 1898 Tokay to odd quirks of language to the panserbjorne, while determined, clever Lyra is strongly reminiscent of Joan Aiken's Dido Twite.


A few years ago he was the second most banned or restricted author in the U.S.

BenG 08-22-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 3155874)
I was thinking of adding a vote to Beloved, but I see Sun Surfer rated it only two stars at Goodreads, so I think I'll pass; at least for now.

Beloved would be interesting, but is not a light read. I'm not sure I'd be up for it immediately after Dhalgren.

treadlightly 08-22-2015 08:57 PM

I'll second The Golden Compass.

Nyssa 08-23-2015 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BenG (Post 3156220)
I'll nominate The Golden Compass (The Northern Lights in the UK), the first volume in the His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman.

Sometimes banned or contested because of a perceived anti-religion bias, though that's almost entirely in the later books. It's sort of the anti-Narnia. (Plus it has armored bears! I loved the armored bears. :) )

Amazon US: http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Compass...=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Northern-Lig...orthern+lights

Edit to add summary:
Spoiler:

Lyra's life is already sufficiently interesting for a novel before she eavesdrops on a presentation by her uncle Lord Asriel to his colleagues in the Jordan College faculty, Oxford. The college, famed for its leadership in experimental theology, is funding Lord Asriel's research into the heretical possibility of the existence of worlds unlike Lyra's own, where everyone is born with a familiar animal companion, magic of a kind works, the Tartars are threatening to overrun Muscovy, and the Pope is a puritanical Protestant. Set in an England familiar and strange, Philip Pullman's lively, taut story is a must-read and re-read for fantasy lovers of all ages. The world-building is outstanding, from the subtle hints of the 1898 Tokay to odd quirks of language to the panserbjorne, while determined, clever Lyra is strongly reminiscent of Joan Aiken's Dido Twite.


A few years ago he was the second most banned or restricted author in the U.S.

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Originally Posted by treadlightly (Post 3156244)
I'll second The Golden Compass.


Third! It's a very interesting trilogy.

issybird 08-23-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 3155210)
I'm glad that Banned Books wasn't nominated, as history seems to show that the idea of celebrating banned books is better than actually reading many of them.

I hope Tom doesn't mind my quoting him from a different thread. I agree with this. Banned books at this point are a well-worn list of books that people mostly have read (because, Ooh! Banned!) and there's no point in even feeling superior, as people are all agreed that it's just silly. YA books, and so far three of the four nominated books are YA, are even more tedious in the context of being banned. Parents will be parents, even if everyone agrees they're wrong-headed.

So I thought I'd nominate three books that at least are for adults and might not have been read by everyone and are mostly free or cheap (depending on translation) and I won't provide links (except in one case) since all but Kafka are PD everywhere and Kafka most places, and choices will also depend on whether to get a paid or a free translation for Voltaire and Kafka.

Candide, by Voltaire. From Goodreads:

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Candide is the story of a gentle man who, though pummeled and slapped in every direction by fate, clings desperately to the belief that he lives in "the best of all possible worlds." On the surface a witty, bantering tale, this eighteenth-century classic is actually a savage, satiric thrust at the philosophical optimism that proclaims that all disaster and human suffering is part of a benevolent cosmic plan. Fast, funny, often outrageous, the French philosopher's immortal narrative takes Candide around the world to discover that -- contrary to the teachings of his distringuished tutor Dr. Pangloss -- all is not always for the best. Alive with wit, brilliance, and graceful storytelling, Candide has become Voltaire's most celebrated work.
Can Such Things Be?, by Ambrose Bierce.

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Ambrose Bierce never owned a horse, a carriage, or a car; he was a renter who never owned his own home. He was a man on the move, a man who traveled light: and in the end he rode, with all of his possessions, on a rented horse into the Mexican desert to join Pancho Villa -- never to return. Can Such Things Be? Once William Randolph Hearst -- Bierce's employer, who was bragging about his own endless collections of statuary, art, books, tapestries, and, of course real estate like Hearst Castle -- once William Randolph Hearst asked Bierce what he collected. Bierce responded, smugly: "I collect words. And ideas. Like you, I also store them. But in the reservoir of my mind. I can take them out and display them at a moment's notice. Eminently portable, Mr. Hearst. And I don't find it necessary to show them all at the same time." Such things "can" be. twenty-four tales of the weird by Ambrose Bierce, renowned master of the macabre
The Castle, by Franz Kafka.

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A remote village covered almost permanently in snow and dominated by a castle and its staff of dictatorial, sexually predatory bureaucrats - this is the setting for Kafka's story about a man seeking both acceptance in the village and access to the castle. Kafka breaks new ground in evoking a dense village community fraught with tensions, and recounting an often poignant, occasionally farcical love-affair. He also explores the relation between the individual and power, and asks why the villagers so readily submit to an authority which may exist only in their collective imagination.
This translation, based on the restored text, looks good but there are cheaper options.

CRussel 08-23-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyssa (Post 3156283)
Third! It's a very interesting trilogy.

Darn, I wanted to third it.

This is an excellent read. Something we need after this month's.

sun surfer 08-23-2015 12:34 PM

I'll put forth One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. I haven't read anything by the famous Solzhenitsyn and this short book would be a good introduction.


From Goodreads:

First published in the Soviet journal Novy Mir in 1962, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich stands as a classic of contemporary literature. The story of labor-camp inmate Ivan Denisovich Shukhov, it graphically describes his struggle to maintain his dignity in the face of communist oppression. An unforgettable portrait of the entire world of Stalin's forced work camps, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich is one of the most extraordinary literary documents to have emerged from the Soviet Union and confirms Solzhenitsyn's stature as "a literary genius whose talent matches that of Dosotevsky, Turgenev, Tolstoy"--Harrison Salisbury


Book Extract:

As usual, at five o'clock that morning reveille was sounded by the blows of a hammer on a length of rail hanging up near the staff quarters. The intermittent sound barely penetrated the window-panes on which the frost lay two fingers thick, and they ended almost as soon as they'd begun. It was cold outside, and the camp-guard was reluctant to go on beating out the reveille for long.

The clanging ceased, but everything outside still looked like the middle of the night when Ivan Denisovich Shukhov got up to go to the bucket. It was pitch dark except for the yellow light cast on the window by three lamps - two in the outer zone, one inside the camp itself.

And no one came to unbolt the barrack-hut door; there was no sound of the barrack-orderlies pushing a pole into place to lift the barrel of nightsoil and carry it out.


Goodreads / Longer Extract / Amazon UK / Amazon US


I'll also second Candide.

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 3155874)
I was thinking of adding a vote to Beloved, but I see Sun Surfer rated it only two stars at Goodreads, so I think I'll pass; at least for now.

It's well-written and evocative. I wouldn't have minded that it was so dark and disturbing or confusing and difficult to follow if it weren't so heavy-handed.

Hamlet53 08-23-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird (Post 3156487)
I hope Tom doesn't mind my quoting him from a different thread. I agree with this. Banned books at this point are a well-worn list of books that people mostly have read (because, Ooh! Banned!) and there's no point in even feeling superior, as people are all agreed that it's just silly. YA books, and so far three of the four nominated books are YA, are even more tedious in the context of being banned. Parents will be parents, even if everyone agrees they're wrong-headed.

So I thought I'd nominate three books that at least are for adults and might not have been read by everyone and are mostly free or cheap (depending on translation) and I won't provide links (except in one case) since all but Kafka are PD everywhere and Kafka most places, and choices will also depend on whether to get a paid or a free translation for Voltaire and Kafka.
.

Yes I tend to agree with this. Though it's two books intended for children or young adults that I had not read or even heard of that received two of my votes. It's been a long time since I as a child or YA.

I've read the Castle and Candide already, actually multiple times, but I've never read Can Such Things Be? So it gets my final vote as a second. I've read Beloved so don't care to third that. It is a heavy read that I don't believe would be a popular choice.

issybird 08-23-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet53 (Post 3156530)
Yes I tend to agree with this. Though it's two books intended for children or young adults that I had not read or even heard of that received two of my votes. It's been a long time since I as a child or YA.

I've read the Castle and Candide already, actually multiple times, but I've never read Can Such Things Be? So it gets my final vote as a second. I've read Beloved so don't care to third that. It is a heavy read that I don't believe would be a popular choice.

I've read all three YA books, with a niece or nephew of the appropriate age (theirs); I have no interest in revisiting them and one of them is terrible. I also have no interest in rereading Beloved. I think Morrison's Nobel was motivated by considerations other than an abstract assessment of quality, as with most awards.

I've read Candide but would enjoy reading it again and it's short. Although I've read Kafka's other major works, I must confess to never having read The Castle, hence my nomination.

ETA: Oops, I didn't realize that The Earth, etc., is YA. So all four nominated books are YA. I haven't read that one.

Almamida 08-23-2015 02:39 PM

I third Candide.

bfisher 08-23-2015 04:25 PM

I will third Can Such Things Be?

bfisher 08-23-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sun surfer (Post 3156529)
I'll put forth One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. I haven't read anything by the famous Solzhenitsyn and this short book would be a good introduction.


From Goodreads:

First published in the Soviet journal Novy Mir in 1962, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich ...

I admire your choice of Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, but does "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" count as a banned book, since it was actually published in the USSR in Novy Mir. Perhaps Cancer Ward or The First Circle would be more appropriate, as they were not published in the USSR but only circulated as samizdat. It was after he wrote Cancer Ward that he was expelled from the Soviet Writers Union.

fantasyfan 08-23-2015 04:42 PM

I'll fourth Can Such Things Be.
Whoops Sorry, It doesn't need a fourth. I think it is a good choice though.
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sun surfer 08-23-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bfisher (Post 3156655)
I admire your choice of Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, but does "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" count as a banned book, since it was actually published in the USSR in Novy Mir. Perhaps Cancer Ward or The First Circle would be more appropriate, as they were not published in the USSR but only circulated as samizdat. It was after he wrote Cancer Ward that he was expelled from the Soviet Writers Union.

Thanks bfisher. :) It's been banned and challenged, and not only in Russia. It was initially published in Russia, but banned after a change in power. Here's the relevant paragraph from an article on the book:

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After Brezhnev came to power, Solzhenitsyn's works were pretty much banned, and a black-market rose up where people read his work in secret. Solzhenitsyn was arrested and deported from Russia in 1974 and his works, including One Day, weren't openly available again until 1989, when the Soviet Union began to crumble. The Soviet Union finally collapsed in 1991.
If the link works correctly, here's a google books preview of the book "Literature Suppressed on Political Grounds" open to the section on Ivan Denisovich. It talks about various U.S. school libraries challenging and sometimes removing the book, often for "vulgar language".

Relatedly, the film version was banned in Finland for many years too.

I think it'd be a great selection for the last banned/challenged month. :)

WT Sharpe 08-23-2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fantasyfan (Post 3156662)
I'll fourth Can Such Things Be.
Whoops Sorry, It doesn't need a fourth. I think it is a good choice though.
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As I was tallying things up just now I was going to give it one of my votes. We were both beaten. Bierce was an interesting writer. I wonder if we'll ever know what happened to him? Probably not. His body's probably in a shallow grave in Mexico if the vultures didn't get it.

bfisher 08-23-2015 06:59 PM

I'll second "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich"

JSWolf 08-23-2015 07:09 PM

After this month's disaster, we do need something lighter and more enjoyable. YA means these books are for adults because you are either an adult or not. There is no in between.


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