Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3147489)

The following sums up very well what the differences are and how these really should not have been combined.

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/is-y...r-or-suspense/

Originally Posted by bfisher (Post 3147491)

Lots of good crime fiction - for example, Elmore Leonard (Get Shorty), George V. Higgins (The Friends of Eddie Coyle)

Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes (Post 3147495)

Political thriller like something Tom Clancy would write might fit outside those two. While you could file it under Mystery it's pacing and tension elevate it to something that is more than Mystery and not Horror.

There you go bringing up the one category that I voted for that I didn't particular like the grouping of. :) For me, Mystery/Crime and Thriller would have been the two categories. Suspense is just confusing the issue and Thriller and Crime are two different beasts. I wonder if the



My take: Crime is a sub of Mystery, focusing on the criminal investigation.

Thriller/Suspense have a certain pacing to them that heightens our anxiety and tension, but Suspense isn't really a genre for me.

Horror is its own thing. It is designed to scare. While mysteries and thrillers can scare us, horror tends to try to make us nauseated to boot.

And take all of this with a grain of salt because I have been known in the past to not read much mystery and to not be impressed by it when I have read it. I think I should like it, but I keep trying.

Originally Posted by issybird (Post 3147488)

So, if a book about the American Revolution, say, were chosen, that means we couldn't discuss the political differences between the Patriots and the Loyalists? Or the Cavaliers and the Roundheads in the English Civil War?

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3147494)

Every time I've read in a thread where there are some political or religious comments, one of the staff jumps in and says to take it to the P&R forum. So I cannot see why this would be any different as technically discussing politics is only allowed in P&R.

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3147518)

I've always said that thriller, suspense & crime are not the same and should not be merged. Besides, if they were the same, then we'd only need one of them.

Originally Posted by CRussel (Post 3147517)

I certainly don't agree, but since neither of us is currently a moderator, I think we'll let WT Sharpe make that decision. Discussing the politics that was the root cause of a war in the past seems like a valid and necessary topic when you're talking about a book based in that war.

Originally Posted by John F (Post 3147415)

I expect to follow what is in the first post of the vote thread. We had a whole year to discuss categories, I would expect everything to be ironed out before nominations and voting happens.

Originally Posted by sun surfer (Post 3147527)

I'm not sure I understand your disagreement with me. I would consider the categories already ironed out. Are you really saying that because some obvious descriptions from the category nominations thread weren't included in the poll that we must ignore the clearly stated intent from the nominator of a category? :eek: :blink:

Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes (Post 3147495)

... For me, Mystery/Crime and Thriller would have been the two categories. Suspense is just confusing the issue and Thriller and Crime are two different beasts...

Originally Posted by issybird (Post 3147486)

Sure. Spy novels, for one. Also, books like Day of the Jackal or In Cold Blood.

Originally Posted by bfisher (Post 3147491)

Lots of good crime fiction - for example, Elmore Leonard (Get Shorty), George V. Higgins (The Friends of Eddie Coyle)

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3147494)

Every time I've read in a thread where there are some political or religious comments, one of the staff jumps in and says to take it to the P&R forum. So I cannot see why this would be any different as technically discussing politics is only allowed in P&R.

Originally Posted by sun surfer (Post 3147527)

I'm not sure I understand your disagreement with me. I would consider the categories already ironed out. Are you really saying that because some obvious descriptions from the category nominations thread weren't included in the poll that we must ignore the clearly stated intent from the nominator of a category? :eek: :blink:

Originally Posted by John F (Post 3147751)

Yes. :rolleyes::blink::eek::p

Let the monthly nomination/voting decide things.

Originally Posted by treadlightly (Post 3147352)

I assumed that they were both non-fiction categories. But it could be argued that factual History may have a hint of fiction in it, no? And Science could include a lot of speculation. But still, Non-fiction as a genre.

I didn't add "Fiction" to the end of Contemporary but I wish I had.