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JSWolf 08-08-2015 06:27 PM

I've been trying to read Dhalgren and I'm having a hard time because I'm not on drugs. This is a bizarre book with no real plot. It's not making much sense and I'm not finding any of the characters worth caring about. They just are plodding along. It's no wonder this book didn't even read 4 stars on Goodreads.

WT Sharpe 08-08-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3147960)
I've been trying to read Dhalgren and I'm having a hard time because I'm not on drugs. This is a bizarre book with no real plot. It's not making much sense and I'm not finding any of the characters worth caring about. They just are plodding along. It's no wonder this book didn't even read 4 stars on Goodreads.

I'm beginning to suspect the author kept a dream diary. ;)

kennyc 08-08-2015 09:15 PM

It was called Brass Orchids. :D

kennyc 08-08-2015 09:34 PM

Interesting post from Fredrick Pohl about Delaney and Dhalgren. Pohl was the editor that purchased Dhalgren:

part 1 - http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/...1/chip-delany/
part 2 The Miracle of Dhalgren - http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/...e-of-dhalgren/

kennyc 08-08-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 3148001)
I'm beginning to suspect the author kept a dream diary. ;)

I'm wondering if Jon perhaps missed reading the foreword by William Gibson.
Which is right on target.

P.S. Gibson wrote a book I've never been able to read past the first chapter despite numerous attempts.

JSWolf 08-09-2015 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc (Post 3148017)
Interesting post from Fredrick Pohl about Delaney and Dhalgren. Pohl was the editor that purchased Dhalgren:

part 1 - http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/...1/chip-delany/
part 2 The Miracle of Dhalgren - http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/...e-of-dhalgren/

So it's a sex book and not a science fiction book. Well, it any case, it's crap.

din155 08-16-2015 09:27 AM

Damn, third attempt to restart the first chapter. It's slow and confusing.

kennyc 08-16-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by din155 (Post 3152552)
Damn, third attempt to restart the first chapter. It's slow and confusing.

Read it like poetry....just keep reading....it's not (intended) to be all clear, logical, understandable. ;)

WT Sharpe 08-16-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 3148135)
So it's a sex book and not a science fiction book. Well, it any case, it's crap.


How do you really feel about it? :p

BenG 08-17-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by din155 (Post 3152552)
Damn, third attempt to restart the first chapter. It's slow and confusing.

It gets better after the 1st chapter, at least there is a more coherent moment to moment plot, though what has happened to the city is still unknown.
I'm about a third of the way through.


Not sure if this would be a spoiler since I'm only guessing.
Spoiler:
I think, though it's only a guess, that the more "poetical" parts are from a certain notebook.

kennyc 08-17-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BenG (Post 3153100)
It gets better after the 1st chapter, at least there is a more coherent moment to moment plot, though what has happened to the city is still unknown.
I'm about a third of the way through.


Not sure if this would be a spoiler since I'm only guessing.
Spoiler:
I think, though it's only a guess, that the more "poetical" parts are from a certain notebook.

As someone mentioned somewhere in a review....Delaney particularly takes poetic and literary license in the open and closing chapters, there are other places throughout that are similar but yes it does have a bit more continuity once you get into it. :)

And I'm not going to say whether you spoiler is right or wrong but.....you'll just have to find out for yourself. :p

din155 08-18-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BenG (Post 3153100)
It gets better after the 1st chapter, at least there is a more coherent moment to moment plot, though what has happened to the city is still unknown.
I'm about a third of the way through.


Not sure if this would be a spoiler since I'm only guessing.
Spoiler:
I think, though it's only a guess, that the more "poetical" parts are from a certain notebook.

Thanks for encouragement, I have managed to move past the first chapter on the the way to office this morning. I am really hoping it gets better.

JSWolf 08-18-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by din155 (Post 3153719)
Thanks for encouragement, I have managed to move past the first chapter on the the way to office this morning. I am really hoping it gets better.

From some of the reviews I've read, it doesn't get better. On a good note, it doesn't get worse. It stays the same.

fantasyfan 08-19-2015 03:33 AM

I think this is the sort of novel that James Joyce would have written had he decided to engage with science-fiction. ;)


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