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WT Sharpe 03-27-2014 07:48 AM

April 2014 Book Club Vote
 
April 2014 MobileRead Book Club Vote

Help us choose a book as the December 2013 eBook for the MobileRead Book Club. The poll will be open for 5 days. There will be no runoff vote unless the voting results a tie, in which case there will be a 3 day run-off poll. This is a visible poll: others can see how you voted. It is http://wtsharpe3.com/Pictures/Multiple-Choice_C3.gif You may cast a vote for each book that appeals to you.

We will start the discussion thread for this book on April 20th. Select from the following Official Choices with three nominations each:

Sister Carrie by Theodore Dreiser
Patricia Clark Memorial Library: LRFAmazon US / Kobo
Spoiler:
Dreiser's unsparing story of a country girl's rise to riches as the mistress of a wealthy man marked the beginning of the naturalist movement in America. Both its subject matter and Dreiser's objective, nonmoralizing approach made it highly controversial, and only a heavily edited version could be published in 1900.


Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
No links provided.
Spoiler:
An Amazon blurb:

Supreme masterpiece recounts in feverish, compelling tones the story of Raskolnikov, an impoverished student tormented by his own nihilism, and the struggle between good and evil.


The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
Patricia Clark Memorial Library: / ePub / ePub (Complete Works) / KindleUncensored Version: Amazon US / Barnes & Noble / De Gruyter
Spoiler:
From Wikipedia:

The Picture of Dorian Gray is the only published novel by Oscar Wilde, appearing as the lead story in Lippincott's Monthly Magazine on 20 June 1890, printed as the July 1890 issue of this magazine. The magazine's editors feared the story was indecent as submitted, so they censored roughly 500 words, without Wilde's knowledge, before publication. But even with that, the story was still greeted with outrage by British reviewers, some of whom suggested that Wilde should be prosecuted on moral grounds, leading Wilde to defend the novel aggressively in letters to the British press. Wilde later revised the story for book publication, making substantial alterations, deleting controversial passages, adding new chapters, and including an aphoristic Preface that has since become famous in its own right. The amended version was published by Ward Lock & Co in April 1891. Some scholars believe that Wilde would today have wanted us to read the version he originally submitted to Lippincott's.

The novel tells of a young man named Dorian Gray, the subject of a painting by artist Basil Hallward. Basil is impressed by Dorian's beauty and becomes infatuated with him, believing his beauty is responsible for a new mode in his art. Dorian meets Lord Henry Wotton, a friend of Basil's, and becomes enthralled by Lord Henry's world view. Espousing a new hedonism, Lord Henry suggests the only things worth pursuing in life are beauty and fulfilment of the senses. Realizing that one day his beauty will fade, Dorian (whimsically) expresses a desire to sell his soul to ensure the portrait Basil has painted would age rather than he. Dorian's wish is fulfilled, and when he subsequently pursues a life of debauchery, the portrait serves as a reminder of the effect each act has upon his soul, with each sin displayed as a disfigurement of his form, or through a sign of aging.

The Picture of Dorian Gray is considered a work of classic Gothic fiction with a strong Faustian theme.


The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum
Patricia Clark Memorial Library: Oz Omnibus: BBeB/LRF (Illustrated) / ePub / Kindle / Kindle (Illustrated)
Spoiler:
We all know and love the movie, but as we all know "the book is always better than the movie". Let's find out if that is true and discuss together...


The Twelve Chairs by Ilya Ilf and Eugine Petrov
Amazon US
Spoiler:
Book Description (from Amazon.com):
Publication Date: December 2, 2013
Ostap Bender is an unemployed con artist living by his wits in postrevolutionary Soviet Russia. He joins forces with Ippolit Matveyevich Vorobyaninov, a former nobleman who has returned to his hometown to find a cache of missing jewels which were hidden in some chairs that have been appropriated by the Soviet authorities. The search for the bejeweled chairs takes these unlikely heroes from the provinces to Moscow to the wilds of Soviet Georgia and the Trans-caucasus mountains; on their quest they encounter a wide variety of characters: from opportunistic Soviet bureaucrats to aging survivors of the prerevolutionary propertied classes, each one more selfish, venal, and ineffective than the one before.


The Bridge of San Luis Rey by Thornton Wilder
Amazon US / Kobo
Spoiler:
"On Friday noon, July the twentieth, 1714, the finest bridge in all Peru broke and precipitated five travelers into the gulf below." With this celebrated sentence Thornton Wilder begins The Bridge of San Luis Rey, one of the towering achievements in American fiction and a novel read throughout the world.

By chance, a monk witnesses the tragedy. Brother Juniper then embarks on a quest to prove that it was divine intervention rather than chance that led to the deaths of those who perished in the tragedy. His search leads to his own death -- and to the author's timeless investigation into the nature of love and the meaning of the human condition.


Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift
Patricia Clark Memorial Library: ePub / Kindle
Spoiler:
No description provided.


Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe
No links provided.
Spoiler:
No summation provided.


The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling
Patricia Clark Memorial Library: ePub / Kindle / Kindle (Books 1 & 2)Amazon
Spoiler:
Contains these stories:
MOWGLI'S BROTHERS
KAA'S HUNTING
TIGER! TIGER!
THE WHITE SEAL
RIKKI-TIKKI-TAVI
TOOMAI OF THE ELEPHANTS
HER MAJESTY'S SERVANTS
PARADE-SONG OF THE CAMP ANIMALS


Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas
Patricia Clark Memorial Library: ePub (D'Artagnan Romances, Vol 1) / ePub (French) / ePub (French/English) / Kindle (D'Artagnan Romances, Vol 1) / Kindle (French/English)
Spoiler:
Amazon blurb:

With its rousing cry of "One for all, and all for one," Alexandre Dumas's thrilling adventure novel has captivated generations of readers since its initial publication in 1844. Action, intrigue, and romance abound in this swashbuckling epic, which traces a country lad's path to the French court of the early 1600s and the glorious fraternity of the king's men, the Musketeers.

tidegirl 03-27-2014 08:43 AM

I'm having a case of reader's block. I've been reading entirely too much young adult fiction (which I am not qualified to read LOL) and need to expand my horizons, but can't for the life of me figure out what I want to read. Hopefully this will get me out of the slump. :D

Moe The Cat 03-27-2014 10:01 AM

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Tom, a question about the vote percentages. At this time, there are seven votes cast for six different books. A Picture Of Dorian Gray has two of those seven votes. The right-hand columns shows that as 66.67%. Shouldn't that be "2 divided by 7" or 28.57% of the total vote?

Moe The Cat 03-27-2014 10:13 AM

Oh, I see. You're dividing by the number of voters (3). That way, someone who votes for several books won't carry more weight than someone who votes for a single book. :smack: Makes sense!

Hamlet53 03-27-2014 10:33 AM

Whether or not to vote for The Picture of Dorian Gray was the only tough call. I've read the long standard version enough times that I really have no interest in reading that again. The more that I looked into the new version the less interested I became as it apparently adds some, but also subtracts some from the former. That and, at least from the links, it looks like both versions were nominated?

Some of the others I did not vote for are great books, just not books I am keen on reading again at this time.

WT Sharpe 03-27-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe The Cat (Post 2796279)
Tom, a question about the vote percentages. At this time, there are seven votes cast for six different books. A Picture Of Dorian Gray has two of those seven votes. The right-hand columns shows that as 66.67%. Shouldn't that be "2 divided by 7" or 28.57% of the total vote?

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Originally Posted by Moe The Cat (Post 2796285)
Oh, I see. You're dividing by the number of voters (3). That way, someone who votes for several books won't carry more weight than someone who votes for a single book. :smack: Makes sense!

Actually, I'm doing nothing. The vote tabulation is computed automatically by the MobileRead operating system. ;)

issybird 03-27-2014 10:56 AM

This is a strong slate, but I'd decided that I had to cut back on book club rereads this year and the only choice I haven't read is The Twelve Chairs. It looks fascinating and well worth reading; however, the length gives me pause at a time when I'm already struggling to fit in the books I'd planned to read this year.

Therefore, I've decided not to vote, but I'll try to read the uncensored Dorian Grey or Twelve Chairs if selected.

orlok 03-27-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by issybird (Post 2796312)
This is a strong slate, but I'd decided that I had to cut back on book club rereads this year and the only choice I haven't read is The Twelve Chairs. It looks fascinating and well worth reading; however, the length gives me pause at a time when I'm already struggling to fit in the books I'd planned to read this year.

Therefore, I've decided not to vote, but I'll try to read the uncensored Dorian Grey or Twelve Chairs if selected.

Ditto in terms of rereads and the fact that I'm behind on my challenge, so I've only voted for Dorian Grey.

Gronk 03-27-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird (Post 2796312)
This is a strong slate, but I'd decided that I had to cut back on book club rereads this year and the only choice I haven't read is The Twelve Chairs. It looks fascinating and well worth reading; however, the length gives me pause at a time when I'm already struggling to fit in the books I'd planned to read this year.

Therefore, I've decided not to vote, but I'll try to read the uncensored Dorian Grey or Twelve Chairs if selected.

I'm sixty percent through The Twelve Chairs and it is quite a bit shorter novel than the actual page count would imply. There's a lot of empty space in those pages caused by poor formatting and a considerable amount of dialog such that it seems to me to be the equivalent of about a 400-page book.

caleb72 03-31-2014 06:25 AM

I went for The Twelve Chairs and Dorian Grey.

sun surfer 03-31-2014 06:18 PM

I've been trying to narrow my choices down but in the end just decided to vote for all seven(!) of those that interested me as I'd read any of them. There are two I've already read, one very good and one that is in my opinion overrated (Crime and Punishment, and The Picture of Dorian Gray) and one that I wouldn't mind reading but not right now (The Three Musketeers, because it is long and I just read the loo...ooo...ong The Count of Monte Cristo last year). It looks like none of the seven that I voted for may win so c'est la vie - I've read many of both book clubs' selections so far this year so this would give me a little more time in April for other reads.

By the way Tom, if I haven't said it yet, I like the new(ish) flashy "Multiple Choice" graphic!

WT Sharpe 03-31-2014 08:18 PM

There are several on the list I'd like to read, but only one really wanted to read now, but with all the great selections, this is a pretty much "can't lose" month.

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Originally Posted by sun surfer (Post 2799432)
...By the way Tom, if I haven't said it yet, I like the new(ish) flashy "Multiple Choice" graphic!

Thanks! I did that because there are still occasionally people who miss that the vote is multiple choice. Since the MobileRead software doesn't allow animated text, I made an animated gif and inserted it as a picture in line with the text. ;)


sun surfer 04-01-2014 01:35 AM

You made the graphic? Wow!

WT Sharpe 04-01-2014 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sun surfer (Post 2799707)
You made the graphic? Wow!

It's not that difficult when you have the right software. Have you ever seen me around here on Halloween?



Hamlet53 04-01-2014 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 2799720)
It's not that difficult when you have the right software. Have you ever seen me around here on Halloween?



I've some pretty good software and could make that animated color text easy enough. These two are awesome though, especially that first one.

WT Sharpe 04-01-2014 08:53 AM

The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde is the winner for April. Although you can get the traditional version free from MobileRead's Patricia Clark Memorial Library in several versions, I recommend the Uncensored Version if you can find and afford it. Amazon is still selling it for $2.84, which is, for whatever reason, way below what everyone else is charging.

ccowie 04-01-2014 09:44 AM

The uncensored version is at Kobo for .99 but I had to actually enter "uncensored" in my search. My original search produced many versions, but none uncensored.

John F 04-01-2014 09:56 AM

I would like to read the long version. Does anyone have a link to a PD free ebook?

Thanks.

Canuck_in_Japan 04-01-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ccowie (Post 2799936)
The uncensored version is at Kobo for .99 but I had to actually enter "uncensored" in my search. My original search produced many versions, but none uncensored.

It's not .99 for me. What region are you in?

ccowie 04-01-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan (Post 2799986)
It's not .99 for me. What region are you in?

Canada

WT Sharpe 04-01-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by John F (Post 2799940)
I would like to read the long version. Does anyone have a link to a PD free ebook?

Thanks.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "long version", but I doubt you'll find The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde and edited by Nicholas Frankel in the public domain.

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Previously unpublished and copyright-protected material from the typescript of The Picture of Dorian Gray copyright © 1962, 2000, 2011 by The Estate of Oscar Wilde Additional content copyright © 2011 by the President and Fellows of Harvard College.

pynch 04-01-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 2799998)
I'm not sure what you mean by the "long version", but I doubt you'll find The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde and edited by Nicholas Frankel in the public domain.

I doubt, too, that it is easy to find for free, but it actually is public domain in many countries!

WT Sharpe 04-01-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pynch (Post 2800023)
I doubt, too, that it is easy to find for free, but it actually is public domain in many countries!

I don't see why the text of the original uncensored manuscript should remain in copyright anywhere. In this country unpublished anonymous works, pseudonymous works, and works made for hire are protected for 120 years from date of creation. That would cover those unpublished portions of The Picture of Dorian Gray until 2010, but the estate still claims an ongoing copyright, which is claimed on "the typescript of The Picture of Dorian Gray." Did Oscar Wilde use a typewriter? I don't believe very many were in use in the late nineteenth century. If it's a typed script from a handwritten original not available to the general public, then it's the typed script which is copyrighted, at least in the United States and those countries that adhere to international copyright treaties such as the Berne Convention. The only other way I see they could still lay claim to copyright is to say that some unpublished portions were written after 1883, which I don't believe they do. So as I said, the original uncensored manuscript should be out of copyright, but good luck getting your hands on it to make a copy. I suspect the heirs of Oscar Wilde guard it with great vigilance.

pynch 04-01-2014 01:28 PM

To clarify: I meant that the text of The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde, as edited by Nicholas Frankel, is public domain in many countries! A lot of countries do not grant extra protection for new or newly edited texts once the works of an author are in the public domain. Switzerland, for example. And for those countries it is entirely irrelevant if Mr Frankel claims copyright in the US.

WT Sharpe 04-01-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pynch (Post 2800047)
To clarify: I meant that the text of The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde, as edited by Nicholas Frankel, is public domain in many countries! A lot of countries do not grant extra protection for new or newly edited texts once the works of an author are in the public domain. Switzerland, for example. And for those countries it is entirely irrelevant if Mr Frankel claims copyright in the US.

That's great. Being as the man's been dead now since November 1900, it's about time. U.S. copyright laws do not favor the reading public. We can thank Disney for the fact that our copyright laws are so Mickey Mouse.

John F 04-01-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 2799998)
I'm not sure what you mean by the "long version", but I doubt you'll find The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde and edited by Nicholas Frankel in the public domain.

I'm not sure either. :o

Looking at wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray, there was a version published in 1890 (with some controversy) and later an 1891 version. It looks like the 1891 version was longer (but changed to make it less controversial).

And than, I assume, there is the "Frankel" version.

Being a pragmatist, I have to eliminate the Frankel version: it is still under copyright in the U.S., so it can not possibly be a "classic" yet. :devilish:

Never mind. I see that the MR copy is the longer version.

pynch 04-01-2014 02:13 PM

From what I understand, it had already been changed for the 1890 magazine publication and then further “toned down” but expanded for the 1891 book publication. Frankel’s edition gives the text as handed to the magazine by Wilde.

John F 04-01-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pynch (Post 2800089)
From what I understand, it had already been changed for the 1890 magazine publication and then further “toned down” but expanded for the 1891 book publication. Frankel’s edition gives the text as handed to the magazine by Wilde.

Rereading wiki, I think you are correct.

WT Sharpe 04-01-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John F (Post 2800067)
...Being a pragmatist, I have to eliminate the Frankel version: it is still under copyright in the U.S., so it can not possibly be a "classic" yet. :devilish:

Yes, you are a devil! :D

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Originally Posted by John F (Post 2800067)
Never mind. I see that the MR copy is the longer version.

That's good news. Of course, it isn't the uncensored version.

Dazrin 04-01-2014 03:04 PM

I am going to read the MR version. Despite the fact that the uncensored version may be the more complete version it isn't the version that became a classic. Of course the frugal (CHEAP) part of me has a large say in that. :) I have already spent my Amazon book settlement money.

I do look forward to hearing everyone's opinions on the new version. Hopefully someone with enough knowledge of the times will be able to chime in and say if they think the unedited version would have been popular enough to become the classic that we have today. That is, if they had released the uncensored version back in 1890 would it have become a classic or would it be mostly forgotten now?

WT Sharpe 04-01-2014 05:39 PM

I just finished reading 21% of The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde, which is to say I read the Preface, The General Introduction, and the Textual Introduction. Now I'm at the point where the Wilde's story actually begins. I don't think I'd have time to read the annotated version, but that's just as well. I couldn't afford the $52.23 for the annotated version.

Even so, I couldn't resist this version, which I just saw and ordered.

samhy 04-02-2014 05:47 AM

Would this one (0,99€) be the right one to read along?

orlok 04-02-2014 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by samhy (Post 2800688)
Would this one (0,99€) be the right one to read along?

I was wondering that too. I think, though, that if you want the Frankel version (which I'd prefer), you need to buy this one. Of course, it's about 13 times the price :rolleyes:. Just been looking for some kobo discount codes, but no luck so far.

WT Sharpe 04-02-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by samhy (Post 2800688)
Would this one (0,99€) be the right one to read along?

I'm suspicious of that one. It claims to contain the uncensored version, but the write-up looks as if it contains both the original PUBLISHED (censored by the original editor) edition and the later, toned-down expanded edition. I think if you're looking for the uncensored Nicholas Frankel version you might be disappointed. Nevertheless, which version you choose to read for the discussion is up to you.

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Originally Posted by orlok (Post 2800692)
I was wondering that too. I think, though, that if you want the Frankel version (which I'd prefer), you need to buy this one. Of course, it's about 13 times the price :rolleyes:. Just been looking for some kobo discount codes, but no luck so far.

Some good new on that: It appears to be a Kobo DAILY DEAL. The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde (Nicholas Frankel, ed.) is selling today at Kobo for $9.39 (27% off the list price). Not as good as the ridiculously low Amazon price of $2.84, but not too shoddy.

orlok 04-02-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 2800763)
Some good new on that: It appears to be a Kobo DAILY DEAL. The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde (Nicholas Frankel, ed.) is selling today at Kobo for $9.39 (27% off the list price). Not as good as the ridiculously low Amazon price of $2.84, but not too shoddy.

Yes, I just bought it from Kobo for £6.71. I had a discount code too, but accidently clicked the purchase immediately option so didn't get my discount...

WT Sharpe 04-02-2014 09:04 AM

What kills me is that the Wilde/Frankel uncensored version at Amazon appears to be the exact same book that's selling everywhere else for around 4 times the price. I suspect Amazon miss-priced the book, but who am I to complain? :p

orlok 04-02-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 2800786)
What kills me is that the Wilde/Frankel uncensored version at Amazon appears to be the exact same book that's selling everywhere else for around 4 times the price. I suspect Amazon miss-priced the book, but who am I to complain? :p

Couldn't find it on the UK Amazon site, so was forced to Kobo.

When does the discussion commence? (I know if I go read the first post, it's probably there, but where's the fun in that?)

samhy 04-02-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 2800763)
I'm suspicious of that one. It claims to contain the uncensored version, but the write-up looks as if it contains both the original PUBLISHED (censored by the original editor) edition and the later, toned-down expanded edition. I think if you're looking for the uncensored Nicholas Frankel version you might be disappointed. Nevertheless, which version you choose to read for the discussion is up to you.

I got the Frankel version because I thought the same thing.

WT Sharpe 04-02-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by orlok (Post 2801154)
...When does the discussion commence? (I know if I go read the first post, it's probably there, but where's the fun in that?)

I'm just no fun. :D

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 2796217)
April 2014 MobileRead Book Club Vote

... We will start the discussion thread for this book on April 20th....

Discussions (as well as the next month's nominations) always start on the 20th. :)

orlok 04-02-2014 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe (Post 2801208)
I'm just no fun. :D



Discussions (as well as the next month's nominations) always start on the 20th. :)

:thumbsup:


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