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Kingston 03-03-2008 12:16 AM

Sony-Kindle Cage Match
 
http://tinyurl.com/yvxdag

Pretty interesting comparison. I guess it just boils down to personal preference....like why some people like vanilla and some chocolate.

tix4luck 03-03-2008 01:29 AM

Thanks Kingston. My wife and I had fun writing our comparisons. She loves her Sony and I love my Kindle. Just like vanilla and chocolate. We are both stoked people are reading our article. Thanks for telling people about it.

lovebeta 03-03-2008 12:28 PM

*Sony is Evil* Very well said! :)

I am totally with you tix4luck. It seemed that 80% your wift's argument for Sony was about cosmetic. LoL

Sony lovers - don't get me wrong. I have both devices and I love prs for its hackability... and look. :p

JSWolf 03-03-2008 01:08 PM

That article is so full of nonsense. They compare the Reader to other products that have nothing to do with it. They complain about blu-ray even. That article is just awful overall.

NatCh 03-03-2008 01:19 PM

I disagree, JSWolf. :shrug: The blu-ray thing (along with betamax and minidisk) is meant as an illustration of Sony's tendency to back proprietary formats, so I figure it's a relevant point ... I don't find it compelling, mind you, given the fact that Amazon seems to be playing the same proprietary format game, but there you go.

I think they cover some good details that folks might have questions about, and they come at it from a user perspective, so that's a valuable approach.

Just my 2¢ of course. :nice:

JSWolf 03-03-2008 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh (Post 155722)
I disagree, JSWolf. :shrug: The blu-ray thing (along with betamax and minidisk) is meant as an illustration of Sony's tendency to back proprietary formats, so I figure it's a relevant point ... I don't find it compelling, mind you, given the fact that Amazon seems to be playing the same proprietary format game, but there you go.

I think they cover some good details that folks might have questions about, and they come at it from a user perspective, so that's a valuable approach.

Just my 2¢ of course. :nice:

HD-DVD is a proprietary format, VHS was a proprietary format, Kindle's AZW format is proprietary.. just about anything new is proprietary. So why does that have to be brought up as an issue?

NatCh 03-03-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 155730)
HD-DVD is a proprietary format, VHS was a proprietary format, Kindle's AZW format is proprietary.. just about anything new is proprietary. So why does that have to be brought up as an issue?

It clearly is an issue to a lot of folks. :shrug:

That being said, I tend to mostly agree with you on the point: in most cases it's something to consider, but not necessarily a show-stopper for me.

zelda_pinwheel 03-03-2008 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 155714)
That article is so full of nonsense. They compare the Reader to other products that have nothing to do with it. They complain about blu-ray even. That article is just awful overall.

to be fair, they are mentioning these other products in the context of proprietary formats and DRM in Sony's history. that seems pertinent here.

JSWolf 03-03-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel (Post 155735)
to be fair, they are mentioning these other products in the context of proprietary formats and DRM in Sony's history. that seems pertinent here.

Why not mention Amazon's history of eBooks and how they screwed over a lot of people who needed to download them again and could not. That's a bit more relevant in this case. Sony has no bad history with eBooks and Amazon does. But why doesn't that ever get mentioned?

NatCh 03-03-2008 01:59 PM

Mostly because most people don't know it, I expect. Certainly complete newcomers (like the folks Amazon seems to be mainly targeting) won't know about it. :shrug:

Actually, that might be a good point to add to their blog comments ....

pilotbob 03-03-2008 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tix4luck (Post 155610)
Thanks Kingston. My wife and I had fun writing our comparisons. She loves her Sony and I love my Kindle. Just like vanilla and chocolate. We are both stoked people are reading our article. Thanks for telling people about it.

It was an interesting read. But, You listed the good things about the Kindle, and your wife listed the bad things about the Kindle. It would have been better if she listed to good things about the Sony.

IMNSHO,
BOb

Kingston 03-03-2008 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tix4luck (Post 155610)
Thanks Kingston. My wife and I had fun writing our comparisons. She loves her Sony and I love my Kindle. Just like vanilla and chocolate. We are both stoked people are reading our article. Thanks for telling people about it.


Hey, thanks for the article and welcome to the Forum.

Pull up a chair, make yourself at home and post away.

tompe 03-03-2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf (Post 155730)
HD-DVD is a proprietary format, VHS was a proprietary format, Kindle's AZW format is proprietary.. just about anything new is proprietary. So why does that have to be brought up as an issue?

It is not true that anything new is proprietary. And for VHS the cost to produce one VHS player was so high that it did not matter (if VHS now was proprietary, it was well known how it worked at least).

The damage a proprietary format does is much greater when the cost to read the format is nearly zero.

astra 03-04-2008 11:15 AM

I believe the review is a complete r...useless thing.

Many inaccuracies, many important things are missed.

It is like a comparison of BMW and Ford.

Ask an experienced driver his opinion about Ford and ask his wife about her experience with BMW. All we are going to hear about BMW is how sleek it is...

HarryT 03-05-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompe (Post 155857)
It is not true that anything new is proprietary. And for VHS the cost to produce one VHS player was so high that it did not matter (if VHS now was proprietary, it was well known how it worked at least).

The damage a proprietary format does is much greater when the cost to read the format is nearly zero.

In fairness, though, Sony appear to have done exactly the right thing with their Blu-Ray DVD; it would appear that they have "won the war".


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