Meta Editor (Adding another field?)

Guns4Hire · 08-14-2010, 03:53 PM

Has fields for Title, Author and Language.

Would it be possible to add a field for Series and Series count. Just wondering. That way when we import it to Calibre it inputs the Series and Series count automatically as well as Title and Author.

Not sure if this is viable. Or maybe I am missing something. I did look under Add Basic and Add Advanced but didn't see anything for series or anything similar.

Anyway thanks for making a great product Valloric.

Valloric · 08-14-2010, 04:32 PM

The "series" and "series count" are proprietary metadata fields invented for Calibre. They don't exist in the epub standard. As such, they are unlikely to be supported in Sigil.

Guns4Hire · 08-14-2010, 06:41 PM

Gotcha. Thanks for the answer. Was wondering if that was the case.

Jellby · 08-15-2010, 04:45 AM

Maybe "proprietary" is too strong a word here. As Valloric says, the ePUB standard currently includes no way to specify a series, and calibre added its own particular way, which is actually standard-compliant, because it uses just a <meta> element. The way to add the metadata has already been mentioned here.

I wonder, doesn't Sigil support adding arbitrary <meta> elements from within the GUI?

Valloric · 08-15-2010, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

Maybe "proprietary" is too strong a word here.

Proprietary means proprietary. I didn't mean to imply it was somehow against the standard, but it is a proprietary extension.

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Originally Posted by Jellby

I wonder, doesn't Sigil support adding arbitrary <meta> elements from within the GUI?

The current internal architecture would make that somewhat difficult to implement. Not impossible, just difficult. It would take some doing. Haven't had time do it just yet, and nobody posted a request until now (you being the first) so it's not a priority.

eosrose · 08-15-2010, 06:35 PM

I would be interested in seeing something like this eventually.

kovidgoyal · 08-15-2010, 06:48 PM

Off-topic: Actually, proprietary implies ownership of something. You can't own a technique/information.

Since the technique calibre uses to save series information is open, it is not proprietary.

See the definition of proprietary:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/proprietary

eBookNoir · 09-16-2010, 11:43 PM

question on the meta fields, subject says you can enter a phrase or keywords, can you do multiple words separated by comma? thought the standard allowed for that, but cannot find the info now and thought i would check here.

Afterthought, or is it better to put a long list of keywords in the description field? I know this can be done as well, but figuring out best practice seems to be challenging, conflicting practices.

Valloric · 09-17-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eBookNoir

subject says you can enter a phrase or keywords, can you do multiple words separated by comma?

Use a semicolon, not a comma.

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Originally Posted by eBookNoir

Afterthought, or is it better to put a long list of keywords in the description field?

"Description" should be a textual description of a book, for instance like what you would find on the back cover.

eBookNoir · 09-19-2010, 09:44 PM

cool, thanks, thought as much but wanted to clarify. Semi-colon, there we go, now I remember, too many programs I've been using. Thanks again.

08-14-2010, 03:53 PM	#1
Guns4Hire Reading...Since 1970 Posts: 497 Karma: 701 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nook Simple Touch, Pocketbook 360, HP Touchpad	Meta Editor (Adding another field?) Has fields for Title, Author and Language. Would it be possible to add a field for Series and Series count. Just wondering. That way when we import it to Calibre it inputs the Series and Series count automatically as well as Title and Author. Not sure if this is viable. Or maybe I am missing something. I did look under Add Basic and Add Advanced but didn't see anything for series or anything similar. Anyway thanks for making a great product Valloric. __________________ Currently Reading: EVERYTHING! Last edited by Guns4Hire; 08-14-2010 at 03:56 PM.

08-14-2010, 04:32 PM	#2
Valloric Created Sigil, FlightCrew Posts: 1,975 Karma: 348069 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Sony Reader PRS 505	The "series" and "series count" are proprietary metadata fields invented for Calibre. They don't exist in the epub standard. As such, they are unlikely to be supported in Sigil. __________________ Try Sigil, the free and open source ebook editor Try FlightCrew, the superior open source epub validator

08-14-2010, 06:41 PM	#3
Guns4Hire Reading...Since 1970 Posts: 497 Karma: 701 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nook Simple Touch, Pocketbook 360, HP Touchpad	Gotcha. Thanks for the answer. Was wondering if that was the case. __________________ Currently Reading: EVERYTHING!

08-15-2010, 06:48 PM	#7
kovidgoyal Creator of calibre Posts: 22,657 Karma: 3473290 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Off-topic: Actually, proprietary implies ownership of something. You can't own a technique/information. Since the technique calibre uses to save series information is open, it is not proprietary. See the definition of proprietary: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/proprietary __________________ Get calibre Notice to all: I can not provide assistance with DRM removal, for legal reasons, so please do not contact me about it.

09-16-2010, 11:43 PM	#8
eBookNoir Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	Meta & sigil question on the meta fields, subject says you can enter a phrase or keywords, can you do multiple words separated by comma? thought the standard allowed for that, but cannot find the info now and thought i would check here. Afterthought, or is it better to put a long list of keywords in the description field? I know this can be done as well, but figuring out best practice seems to be challenging, conflicting practices. Last edited by eBookNoir; 09-17-2010 at 12:09 AM. Reason: afterthought

08-15-2010, 04:45 AM	#4
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 5,195 Karma: 2508097 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon	Maybe "proprietary" is too strong a word here. As Valloric says, the ePUB standard currently includes no way to specify a series, and calibre added its own particular way, which is actually standard-compliant, because it uses just a <meta> element. The way to add the metadata has already been mentioned here. I wonder, doesn't Sigil support adding arbitrary <meta> elements from within the GUI?

08-15-2010, 06:35 PM	#6
eosrose Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 14 Join Date: May 2010 Location: WI Device: Sony PRS-T1	I would be interested in seeing something like this eventually.

09-19-2010, 09:44 PM	#10
eBookNoir Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	cool, thanks, thought as much but wanted to clarify. Semi-colon, there we go, now I remember, too many programs I've been using. Thanks again.

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