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Old 09-17-2010, 03:13 AM   #31
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This may be an Android Market issue, there isn't currently an Android tablet app store and a device may have to include 3G to be allowed access to the Market.
Remove the “may”s from the sentence and it becomes correct.

And I do not suggest to buy a device without marketplace access. All the in-depended Android Apps shops are tiny compared to Android-Marketplace. And that might not change as the conditions offered to the developers are just bad and there sales are minute.

I know what I am talking about as I have two applications for sale. In retrospect all shops apart from Android Market sell so badly that they do not even recoup the time needed registering a developers account filling in the upload forms.

So don't fall for the 3rd party shop offer excuse from the hardware manufactures and do yourself a favour and only get a device with Marketplace access.

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PS: Note that all shops have different rules on size of marketing text, size of screen shots, allowed HTML to pep up marketing text, etc pp.
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Archos has no MarketPlace access and resistive touch screen is a no go for a multi touch OS.

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PS: Yes it is possible to build multi touch resistive touch screens. But that is special hardware and not the usual off the shelf variety.
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Just to make my point a little clearer, a few important 3rd party Android Shops:

https://slideme.org: No Kindle, No Nook, No Kobo
http://www.handango.com: No Kindle, No Nook, No Kobo
http://andappstore.com: No Kindle, No Nook, No Kobo
http://appslib.com: No Kindle, No Nook, No Kobo

Especially the last one is interesting as it is shop run by Archos. So yes the Archos is cheaper but what are you going to do with it?

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Old 09-17-2010, 04:12 AM   #34
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The 400 euro question is (price diff between the expected price of the samsung galaxy and the pretty much equivalent archos 70 aside from the 3G and hence android marketplace): what does it take to install android marketplace on the Archos?
I've seen some threads saying that this has been added on some other Archos models but dont know what it would take. I for one don't need another 3g device + contract (my galaxy S is fine) and I dont want to pay 400 euros just for marketplace access either
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what does it take to install android marketplace on the Archos?
Installing the Software is not the problem. But you would have the fake your device id as well otherwise the Android-Marketplace server won't talk with your device.
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Old 09-17-2010, 05:28 AM   #36
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Just to make my point a little clearer, a few important 3rd party Android Shops:

https://slideme.org: No Kindle, No Nook, No Kobo
http://www.handango.com: No Kindle, No Nook, No Kobo
http://andappstore.com: No Kindle, No Nook, No Kobo
http://appslib.com: No Kindle, No Nook, No Kobo

Especially the last one is interesting as it is shop run by Archos. So yes the Archos is cheaper but what are you going to do with it?
I was watching a video not to long ago and the Kindle app was already installed. Not sure if that'll make the final cut though. But just being able to to do stuff is enough. Might not work for my mom who needs her hand held in matters of technology, but if I wanted to be babied I'd have a Ipad.
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I was watching a video not to long ago and the Kindle app was already installed. Not sure if that'll make the final cut though. But just being able to to do stuff is enough. Might not work for my mom who needs her hand held in matters of technology, but if I wanted to be babied I'd have a Ipad.
Sometimes it's good to just have something working, though....
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Sometimes it's good to just have something working, though....
This I can agree with. I have love hate feelings towards closed systems. At the moment financially, it's hate. Comes in handy too. My book group just started reading The Windup Girl; Alas, not on Kindle. But with a little help from Inkmesh I was able to fine a epub for it.

Things that are supposed to just work have their own issues.

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This I can agree with. I have love hate feelings towards closed systems. At the moment financially, it's hate. Comes in handy too. My book group just started reading The Windup Girl; Alas, not on Kindle. But with a little help from Inkmesh I was able to fine a epub for it.

Things that are supposed to just work have their own issues.

That's supposed to be a great story (and great writer) from reports. It's on my to-read list.

Baen:
http://inkmesh.com/ebooks/windup-gir...olo+Bacigalupi

Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Windup-Gir...tag=inkmesh-20

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That's supposed to be a great story (and great writer) from reports. It's on my to-read list.

Baen:
http://inkmesh.com/ebooks/windup-gir...olo+Bacigalupi

Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Windup-Gir...tag=inkmesh-20
That's probably cause my cohorts clicked the "I’d like to read this book on Kindle " link.

It is a pretty good book so far. I still have 20 chapters to go.
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The Samsung Galaxy Tab will be running Android OS 2.2 in the initial release AND have fully sanctioned on device access to the Android apps market. I believe one of the reasons it passes ahead of 3.0 is that this device can operate as a phone.

Is there word if it runs HSPA+ 7.2 or 21 mbps like some of the data sticks?

Rogers has confirmed (in a note in the Globe and Mail) that the tablet will be sold in Canada "this fall" ... but, of course, no pricing yet. I'd be interested in one, at the right price, and where I could run it in wifi mode most of the time.
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The Galaxy Tab will NOT be running as a phone in the US: Samsung yanked out this option on all four carriers.

So far, this thing looks like a total loser to me. No voice means no Market, and it has a smaller, regular TFT, which is inferior to the IPS screen on the iPad.

Samsung also has crappy record with upgrades, so I wouldn't bet $600 that this will be upgraded to Gingerbread. Heck, they can't even get 2.2 out for the Galaxy S
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the US mobile market must be a very special beast. I hear nothing good about it.

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Not really. All it needs is a cellular data connection, with the corresponding hardware identification codes, to qualify for market access. The article that I posted earlier seems to imply that they have negotiated Android Market access, even though the oddball screen size is going to be an issue. If anyone really wants voice with it, they could possibly try VOIP?
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