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Old 02-11-2007, 01:37 PM   #1
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Sony Reader new discount

Hi everyone,

Obviously, this is my first post. I've been looking at the Sony Reader for some time now and I'm struggling with determining whether it's worth the money or not....more on this later.

Went to the Sony Style store today and they are offering an immediate $25 discount through Feb 14th. Since the $50 connect store discount is no longer available, I thought that this might be useful information for readers of this forum.

Now...back to my struggle here. I'm a former rocket ebook owner, a mac user (although I still have my old pc), and an avid reader. I love this reader, but I'm really concerned about content. I'm not real interested in the Project Gutenberg texts as I prefer more modern fiction. I've browsed the store and it's ok.

Do any of you know how many books are in the store and what Sony's realistic plans are to increase the number of books offered there? If I spend my hard earned money here, I want to be able to get all my books electronically, not just some of them.

Thanks for any suggestions and I hope the news about the $25 discount helps someone.
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Old 02-11-2007, 01:57 PM   #2
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There are roughly 11,000 books in the connect store AFAIK. They add at least 20 new titles each week. There could be more added but they only mention 20 in the weekly email.
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As far as content, there are other places besides Sony Connect to find modern scifi e-books that can be used on the Reader, like www.baen.com, www.stevejordanbooks.com and others.

If you "must" have everything electronic, you probably have to stay with paper, or get a book scanner to scan paper books you want to read. But while Sony is aggressively trying to add content, there isn't any online e-book seller that can match the coverage of titles at BarnesAndNoble or Amazon.

The other thing to keep in mind is that if you are buying all your books at Sony Connect, they are for the Sony Reader only. You won't be able to read them on other platforms because of DRM. It's not special to Sony, but is widespread across the e-book industry. And while it's "bearable" for most people, it is something to keep in mind if you were planning to build a long term scifi library.

Thanks for the $25 off tip. Anyone have the link and details?
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You can also find books at *other places* and convert them if need be as well.
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:06 PM   #5
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Thanks for the quick responses! I've enjoyed this forum immensely.

Before posting, I looked for some link or info on the sony style web site...couldn't find one. Maybe the $25 discount is only good at the brick and mortar stores.

By the way, our local store has over 20 readers in stock.
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Old 02-11-2007, 03:28 PM   #6
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Well, I don't really have anything more to add than has already been said, but I do want to say "Howdy!" -- and to welcome you to MobileRead, texag!
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Welcome, texag. Aside from content, there is a big difference between the rocket eBook (which I've had for years and still use) and the Reader. Whether it is worth the price for you is something only you can decide, and you're doing the right thing reading all the stuff here.

I really do like it, and am disappointed only about a few things that Sony could and should have incorporated, but still is worth it for me.

Comparing the two, the Rocket eBook's pros and cons compared to the Reader:

Cons: much heavier and bulkier.
Now, of course, no current books available at Amazon, etc.

Pros: Can download any font of type and type size that's on your computer to the device.
Touch screen.
Backlighted, and ability to pick several degrees of brightnes and contrast.
Has clock and date display.
Has built-in lookup dictionary.
Can bookmark and write notes and underline text.
Can turn text in all four positions.
Can "goto" any page, or "previous position"
Has a good "Find" function with an onscreen keyboard.
Has much better Library software that is heads and shoulders above the Connect software.
Can also plug built-in modem directly to phone jack and download content that way.
Probably some other stuff I've forgotten.

So, as good as the Reader is, it is amazing to me that none of these neat features are incorporated into it. Maybe someday.

I'll tell you this: if the eBook still had the ability to purchase and download current books, I'd never have bothered to buy the Reader.
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Now I'm wondering, the Rocket ebook is the one with SmartMedia card right? I think that is also a bummer ... It's too bad that all these devices have only some things right and not quite all the right things. ... will just have to wait ...
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Welcome, texag. Aside from content, there is a big difference between the rocket eBook (which I've had for years and still use) and the Reader. Whether it is worth the price for you is something only you can decide, and you're doing the right thing reading all the stuff here.

I really do like it, and am disappointed only about a few things that Sony could and should have incorporated, but still is worth it for me.

Comparing the two, the Rocket eBook's pros and cons compared to the Reader:

Cons: much heavier and bulkier.
Now, of course, no current books available at Amazon, etc.

Pros: Can download any font of type and type size that's on your computer to the device.
Touch screen.
Backlighted, and ability to pick several degrees of brightnes and contrast.
Has clock and date display.
Has built-in lookup dictionary.
Can bookmark and write notes and underline text.
Can turn text in all four positions.
Can "goto" any page, or "previous position"
Has a good "Find" function with an onscreen keyboard.
Has much better Library software that is heads and shoulders above the Connect software.
Can also plug built-in modem directly to phone jack and download content that way.
Probably some other stuff I've forgotten.

So, as good as the Reader is, it is amazing to me that none of these neat features are incorporated into it. Maybe someday.

I'll tell you this: if the eBook still had the ability to purchase and download current books, I'd never have bothered to buy the Reader.
Does it have the same eInk technology like sony Reader that doesn't tax your eyes at all, or as much as reading a conventional paper?
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:24 AM   #10
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The other thing to keep in mind is that if you are buying all your books at Sony Connect, they are for the Sony Reader only. You won't be able to read them on other platforms because of DRM.
Question: Can't you just activate that slideshow thing on your Reader, throw it in your scanner, set your scanner to scan a page as often as you've set the slideshow to change pages and convert the scanned images to whatever format you want with your OCR software?

Yes, it will take a while, depending on the number of pages in the book and the speed of your scanner, of course, but you only have to do it once per book and then you can forever read that book on any device you want to.
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:35 AM   #11
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Welcome, texag. Aside from content, there is a big difference between the rocket eBook (which I've had for years and still use) and the Reader. Whether it is worth the price for you is something only you can decide, and you're doing the right thing reading all the stuff here.

I really do like it, and am disappointed only about a few things that Sony could and should have incorporated, but still is worth it for me.

Comparing the two, the Rocket eBook's pros and cons compared to the Reader:

Cons: much heavier and bulkier.
Now, of course, no current books available at Amazon, etc.

Pros: Can download any font of type and type size that's on your computer to the device.
Touch screen.
Backlighted, and ability to pick several degrees of brightnes and contrast.
Has clock and date display.
Has built-in lookup dictionary.
Can bookmark and write notes and underline text.
Can turn text in all four positions.
Can "goto" any page, or "previous position"
Has a good "Find" function with an onscreen keyboard.
Has much better Library software that is heads and shoulders above the Connect software.
Can also plug built-in modem directly to phone jack and download content that way.
Probably some other stuff I've forgotten.

So, as good as the Reader is, it is amazing to me that none of these neat features are incorporated into it. Maybe someday.

I'll tell you this: if the eBook still had the ability to purchase and download current books, I'd never have bothered to buy the Reader.
Yep, and the Sony has other annoyances indicating lack of attention to detail, such as when you change the font size it sometimes doesn't adjust the page being displayed such that you don't have to page back.

In response to another question, I always found the original Rocket reader (there was a later, cheaper one) quite readable, and not fatiguing, though I confess it's relegated to a box somewhere, so I have not compared it directly to the Sony.

If I had it to do over, I would NOT have bought the Sony, but would wait for a more open platform that can support more than just Sony DRM content (such as that offered by my local library). I'm getting tired of the current business approach of everything revolving around controlling content.
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Does it have the same eInk technology like sony Reader that doesn't tax your eyes at all, or as much as reading a conventional
paper?
No, it is backlighted, so you can read it in any light (unlike the Reader which requires strong light), even in total darkness. It does not tax the eyes at all because you can regulate the brightness and contrast. You can even turn off the backlight and it can be read, like a Reader, under a bright light.

Alas, there is no more content for it other than Gutenberg and .txt books.
I'm not promoting it, just contrasting its advantages over Sony in the faint home that maybe Sony will wake up some day and improve the Reader.
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No, it is backlighted, so you can read it in any light (unlike the Reader which requires strong light), even in total darkness. It does not tax the eyes at all because you can regulate the brightness and contrast. You can even turn off the backlight and it can be read, like a Reader, under a bright light.
Well, I think you are wrong here. Maybe you don't feel it (I mean some people can read from LCD 12 hours a day and don't feel it) but all the screens with backlights are unhealthy for your eyes to a certain degree. The only real solution is eInk, AFAIK, (fortunatelly or unfortunatelly, I don't know, probably the latter because it probably restricts use of some features that would be possible with different technology). However, for me it is the reason why I bought sony.
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I am just happy to have a reader that I can put my gazzillion books on here, go get on the couch or wherever and read them. I am not stuck with having to read them on the computer with one of my bookreading programs anymore. That is why I bought this reader and it's working for me.

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all the screens with backlights are unhealthy for your eyes to a certain degree.
No study has ever proven that this is true, nor have the results of any study even indicated that this might be the case.
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