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Old 08-29-2010, 12:17 PM   #1
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Kindle or Sony prs500 or even Sony Prs700


Im looking at buying an e-reader,but im not sure of which model?
I like the idea of a Kindle,it looks smart,great range of book,looks pretty easy to work but apparently you dont actually own the books.
Does the Calibre software back them up for you on your own pc.
If not,id look at the Sony but,im not sure which one.
Any advice would be greatfully received
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:38 PM   #2
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I don't know what you mean by "you don't actually own the books"; you "own" them as much as you own any own digital download. Back them up yourself if you're really that worried. You have to rights to the content, which means that you can't, say, re-sell them, any more than you can re-sell an iTunes download. That's true for pretty much anything that you download, and it's true for all eBook stores just as much as for Amazon.
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:11 PM   #3
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Thanks for reply Harry

what i meant about buying books for a kindle,is that have read the download of a book only last for eight years. I have various chess book,that i have been looking at 30+ years
If i bought a Sony e-reader,i actually own the download and can put on other device that can read the format.That whats important to me.
From what,i have read,i didnt know you can back up your books on a kindle,can you.
I have an i-phone and have bought software that backs up my i-tunes,so i can put them on other devices,like my nokia 5800 or Archos player.
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Sounds like you are talking about the old DRM problem.
Sony, Kindle, B&N use different DRM implementations.
That is if you buy an DRM ePub book from Sony Bookstore you can't read it on your Nook unless you remove DRM from the book.
Kindle books can't be read without Kindle (software) unless you remove DRM from the books.

Unfortunately most stores are selling DRM protected books which is a problem when you try to change devices. Best to buy books without DRM. That way you can copy+read them to any device which supports the format.

BTW when you buy a kindle-book from Amazon you own the book. Which doesn't mean you can do with it whatever you want.
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:32 PM   #5
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Thanks for reply Harry

what i meant about buying books for a kindle,is that have read the download of a book only last for eight years. I have various chess book,that i have been looking at 30+ years
If i bought a Sony e-reader,i actually own the download and can put on other device that can read the format.That whats important to me.
From what,i have read,i didnt know you can back up your books on a kindle,can you.
I have an i-phone and have bought software that backs up my i-tunes,so i can put them on other devices,like my nokia 5800 or Archos player.
You can backup your Kindle book purchases to your PC.

As far as longevity-its always a question with DRM'ed content-and the fear of getting cut off/orphaned when a company goes out of business or just cuts and runs.

To me, it is partly a matter of critical mass-Yahoo could cancel their DRM music system, and it didn't really affect that many people (although there was an outcry/backtracking).

I think Amazon is rapidly approaching the point of no return in terms of long term support for their DRM...they've just moved too many books to be able to just let the DRM servers die without having a contingency plan of some sort...well, at least I hope they have several contingency plans.
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:56 AM   #6
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The best thing to do is to remove the DRM from a book as soon as you buy it (which may of may not be legal, depending on where you live).
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:29 AM   #7
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Is there software,i could buy to do that,i just bought kindle off Amazon and im additionally looking at a second hand Prs-505.
If a book has DRM, does that mean after hits a certain date, is it unusable or does it just restricted to that format.

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Old 08-30-2010, 08:22 AM   #8
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Is there software,i could buy to do that,i just bought kindle off Amazon and im additionally looking at a second hand Prs-505.
Just check out Google and find something related to stripping drm. With keywords like... oh I don't know,maybe "Kindle for pc strip drm", or something like that

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Unless it's a library book. That's how library DRM works.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:31 PM   #10
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Is there software,i could buy to do that,i just bought kindle off Amazon and im additionally looking at a second hand Prs-505.
If a book has DRM, does that mean after hits a certain date is it unusable or does it just restricted me to that format.

The DRM makes it more difficult to move a book from one device to another, so between a Kindle and a Sony. As Harry said, the only time a DRM would cause a book to disappear from any device is if it was a library book.

The only way that you will lose your Amazon books is if you do something that causes Amazon to cancel your Amazon account or if Amazon goes out of business. Otherwise, every book you buy from Amazon will be archived for you by Amazon. There are some folks who download all their books to their computer just to be safe but I have not found that necessary. If you chose to download your books to your computer it is very easy to do, simply select Donlad to Computer when you are in your Kindle Account.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:34 PM   #11
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Thanks for your replies guys,just one more stupid question as im a novice,if i have kindle program on my pc, will i be able to read the books,i have bought from my kindle tablet on my pc.Once ive sync machines
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Yes. You can sync books across Kindle readers and programs.
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If you chose to download your books to your computer it is very easy to do, simply select Donlad to Computer when you are in your Kindle Account.
Or just copy them from the "documents" folder of your Kindle while it's connected to your computer via USB.
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