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Old 02-05-2007, 02:12 PM   #1
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RTF support question

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I've seen there are quite a number of thread re: getting an RTF onto the SONY reader.
Recently I've been trying but seems like the only way that works is to have an MS Word file (.doc) and let the Connect software invoke MS Word when it's uploading it to the reader.
This (behind the scene) creates an RTF file that is displayed by the reader.
Any other way I tried creating an RTF (OCR program, OpenOffice, Open and re-save in WordPad, Open and re-save in MS Word) did not work, the Connect software would hang.
What's the trick?
Has anyone been able to get an RTf onto the Reader?
I hope SONY will fix this in the upcoming Connect sw upgrade...
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:19 PM   #2
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I just drag my RTF files directly onto the Reader's entry in the ConnSoft-- I haven't ever tried letting Connect use Word to convert .DOCs to .RTFs.

I don't know of any trick, per se, and I've only had one or two hangs in ... what? ~4 months? I've been handling them mostly through WordPad to keep the file sizes under control, and the only other thing I do consistently is edit them in NotePad and manually add meta-data, but I wouldn't think that would have any effect.

I know that's not much help to you, but I have seen some indications that the update should make some improvement of RTF handling, so there's a bit of hope there.

Maybe somebody else knows a way to make RTFs more agreeable to ConnSoft that I've not noticed?
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If size is not a problem, the RTFs created by MS Word work fine in the Reader. As NatCh said they can be loaded directly through ConnSoft (a good name for the CONNECT software program by the way) and I've never had a hic-up with the process for files that did not contain pictures. I have used Stingo's Macro for formatting. The only "trick" I use is to add the title and author to the properties box inside Word rather than through Windows Explorer so it shows up in the Reader. Since all of what I deal with is English language, I have not needed to edit code pages or the like in the meta data. If you are using Notepad or other editors you may need to add the title and author via meta data. Since RTF has a strange (and expansive) way of supporting graphics, these are best left out of files for the Reader.
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thanks Natch,

I tried opening and re-saving in WordPad. It did shrink the file, the size went down from 300K to about 110K (something like that) but I couldn't get it onto the reader.

I guess there must be something in the file that drives the parser crazy... clearly a bug in their RTF parser.

I wonder why it worked RTF->word->drag&drop->RTF
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That is a good mystery, sic. I wish I had a guess for you, but at 300kB it's a tiny file, and I can't imagine what could be in it to choke ConnSoft -- clearly it's not full of pictures or some such.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:33 PM   #6
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Hmmm
I tried this: open in WordPad, select All, change paragraph to "left justified" with 0 margins.
this fixed it.
Looks like the OCR program set paragraph margins or frames and stuff like that to make it look like it appeared on the original source and that caused problems for the RTF engine when it tried to reflow the text.
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Looks like the OCR program set paragraph margins or frames and stuff like that to make it look like it appeared on the original source and that caused problems for the RTF engine when it tried to reflow the text.
Heh, I can see where that much detailed formatting info might confuse it, even on a relatively small file.

Glad you worked it out.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:32 PM   #8
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I've had only one lockout. It was an Rtf I made from a Pdf. The reason is that I had'nt noticed it was locked.
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Meaning 'read only'. No modification possible. Word translated it on the computer but the thing took about 5 min. instead of the normal 20-30 sec. It felt OK, then when Itried to transfer it to the reader, everything jammed till I pulled it out. That's when I looked up the document properties.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:15 AM   #11
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I know that's not much help to you, but I have seen some indications that the update should make some improvement of RTF handling, so there's a bit of hope there.

Speaking of Updates, are you referring to a connect software update for the reader? I have mine check and there is never one around. Has there been one or anyone ever see one happen yet?
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:58 AM   #12
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Yah, it's supposed to be an update to the ConnSoft and the Reader's firmware both. You haven't seen one because they haven't released one yet -- the one we're looking for will be the very first one.
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Oh, okay. Guess I will be keeping my eyes open for it.
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