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Old 08-10-2010, 05:34 AM   #1
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Is it possible to completely remove the right and left margins?

Hi,

I'm thinking about purchasing a Kindle3 but first I'd like to know if you can completely remove the left and right margins.
I've read that with Caliber you can set the margins to 0 (points), does this mean that there will be no white space between the bezels and the text?
Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-10-2010, 07:09 AM   #2
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I don't have a Kindle 3, but the earlier Kindles don't have this feature, so it's unlikely that the 3 will.

But I'm curious: why on earth do you want to do this?
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I currently have a Sony pocket and this enables the text to have no margins and hope the K3 has the same. Cannot see the point have having wasted screen space, well no more than 1em anyway.
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Yes, in principle, thought AFAIK you could only set the margin format during a conversion and then the original file would have to be without DRM. I've done it with EPUB to MOBI for my Kindle and also EPUB to a new EPUB with smaller margins on my old Sony. My files were all without DRM.
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Thanks suecsi, that's just what I wanted to know.
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Yes, in principle, thought AFAIK you could only set the margin format during a conversion and then the original file would have to be without DRM. I've done it with EPUB to MOBI for my Kindle and also EPUB to a new EPUB with smaller margins on my old Sony. My files were all without DRM.
Thanks for your answer, really appreciated!
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I don't have a Kindle 3, but the earlier Kindles don't have this feature, so it's unlikely that the 3 will.

But I'm curious: why on earth do you want to do this?
More real estate on the screen.
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More real estate on the screen.
Hmm. Not sure I see the point of that. What's the advantage of saving "real estate"?

Would you also want to do away with margins in printed books?
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Hmm. Not sure I see the point of that. What's the advantage of saving "real estate"?

Would you also want to do away with margins in printed books?
I see the bezel of the ereader as the margin.

In a pbook you have the edge of the book, then the margin, then the text, on an ebook you also have the width of the bezel added to the width of the margin, so I want the text to take up as much of the space as possible...

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Hmm. Not sure I see the point of that. What's the advantage of saving "real estate"?
6" screens are smaller than a standard paperback page. In order to have about the same amount of words per line of a paperback on a 6" screen you need to reduce or remove the margins.
I like that the text fills the screen almost to the edges because it means less page turning, but I know not all people like that.

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No. Printed books are big enough to provide a sufficient number of words on each line even with left and right margins.
Printed books need margins so you can rest you fingers on them without covering the text, e-book readers have bezels for that.

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Thanks for the clarification. I hadn't thought of the bezel in that way. Personally, I like things as they are, but it would be good to have a choice, I suppose.
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I agree that margins on an ereader are rather pointless and more words per line without going to a smaller font would be welcome, especially since, as my eyes fail, I find myself graduating to larger fonts.

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Does anybody know if you read books in landscape mode on the K3, or is it a PDF-only feature?

If you can, it would be a nice way to get more 'real estate'.
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Does anybody know if you read books in landscape mode on the K3, or is it a PDF-only feature?

If you can, it would be a nice way to get more 'real estate'.
Landscape mode is available for all supported formats and for the web browser on K2/DX and will be on K3. The only thing that will not display in landscape is the Kindle Store.
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Landscape mode is available for all supported formats and for the web browser on K2/DX and will be on K3. The only thing that will not display in landscape is the Kindle Store.
Excellent. Thank you very much.
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