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Old 07-21-2010, 06:49 AM   #1
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I'm trying to envisage the historical aspects of liseuses, given that Wikipedia is a little short on information.
Was the Sony Reader PRS-500 the first eink based liseuse available on the Western markets? Wednesday, January 4 2006 (4 years 6 months 17 days ago), correct?
I remember the LIBRIé came out somewhat earlier, Wednesday March 24, 2004 (6 years 3 months 28 days ago) but was never made available outside of Japan, correct?
The Kindle came out later than these - Monday, November 19, 2007 (2 years 8 months 2 days ago) and the Nook came out Monday, November 30, 2009 (7 months 21 days ago)...
Are there any other crucial dates I'm missing? I'm thinking especially before 2004 or between 2004 and 2006.
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I'm trying to envisage the historical aspects of liseuses, given that Wikipedia is a little short on information.
Was the Sony Reader PRS-500 the first eink based liseuse available on the Western markets? Wednesday, January 4 2006 (4 years 6 months 17 days ago), correct?
I remember the LIBRIé came out somewhat earlier, Wednesday March 24, 2004 (6 years 3 months 28 days ago) but was never made available outside of Japan, correct?
The Kindle came out later than these - Monday, November 19, 2007 (2 years 8 months 2 days ago) and the Nook came out Monday, November 30, 2009 (7 months 21 days ago)...
Are there any other crucial dates I'm missing? I'm thinking especially before 2004 or between 2004 and 2006.
Actually, there have been *NO* liseuses released - at all! We have seen a plethora of e-ink and LCD ebook readers (e-readers), but no 'liseuses'. Please, don't encourage the language revisionists.

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Actually, there have been *NO* liseuses released - at all! We have seen a plethora of e-ink and LCD ebook readers (e-readers), but no 'liseuses'.
No kidding. It would be against the law to call our gadgets "ebook readers" on a French forum, so where do the French get off coming into an English-speaking forum and demanding we use their made-up French word for the things?
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Old 07-22-2010, 02:57 AM   #4
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No kidding. It would be against the law to call our gadgets "ebook readers" on a French forum, so where do the French get off coming into an English-speaking forum and demanding we use their made-up French word for the things?
Because some people just like to kick against everything and love to stir the pot.
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Because some people just like to kick against everything and love to stir the pot.
They'll do anything to avoid answering legitimate questions..
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Have you looked here in the Wiki .... ? E-book_Reader_Matrix
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:16 AM   #7
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It mentions Jinke Electronics starting in 2000.
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:04 PM   #8
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Why focus solely on the eInk readers?
Dedicated ebook readers predate eInk and go back to the last century. Mind you, a true historical perspective of ebook reader gadgets needs to go all the way back to at least the PalmPilot.
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Because some people just like to kick against everything and love to stir the pot.
Otherwise known as "trolling."
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Why focus solely on the eInk readers?
Dedicated ebook readers predate eInk and go back to the last century. Mind you, a true historical perspective of ebook reader gadgets needs to go all the way back to at least the PalmPilot.
Would the PalmPilot count, though, as ebooks were only one feature of a multi-use PDA? If we're going with "anything portable that can display an ebook", that would be pretty much "anything portable that can display text", since Project Gutenberg has been digitizing books in plain-text form since the 1970s. I'd nominate the GRiDpad in that case.

Of course, this starts getting into problems at the other end, too. Would an iPad count? A smartphone? My 505 if I put PRS+ on it and could play Sudoku? It gets more and more complicated trying to define what kind of device we're actually talking about.
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Would the PalmPilot count, though, as ebooks were only one feature of a multi-use PDA?
1- A lot of people bought PalmPilots (and PocketPCs) precisely as reading devices. Not many bought VT220s or even IBM PCs for ebooks.

2- A lot of the modern ebook industry dates *exactly* to the Palm Pilot.
Fictionwise and eReader (hence B&N) trace back to Peanut press for the Palm, as does does DocReader and the other pdb flavors (iSilo, etc). There is a reason Mobipocket files are .prc (as in Palm ResourCe). Palm's success in ebooks spurred Microsoft to join the Open Ebook effort and create Lit which in many ways paved the way for ePub. It also affected Nuvomedia and Rocket, creators of the first western ebook readers. Think of falling dominoes.

3- Yes, any proper history of ebook reading *devices* should take note of smartphones and linux and tablets and webpads. They're all countributors to the current state of the industry so why pretend they're not? Any proper history of ebook readers has to factor in the russian software contibutions, the japanese cellphone-based market, the chinese factories, the american hardware and software companies and ebookstores. The early failures and their legacies. Everything.

If we're looking to put the industry in proper historical perspective, *everything* should be in play.

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Old 07-22-2010, 03:23 PM   #12
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I'd say the device centric perspective, while important, needs to be complemented by an ebook centric perspective. So you need to also keep in mind dates when important ebook sources became available such as project gutenberg and the IRC networks. The mobipocket and SONY stores, Amazon and so on. I'm sure there are lots of others I'm forgetting.
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It mentions Jinke Electronics starting in 2000.
"Company has been selling e-book devices since 2000. "
Fascinating, but what model? When was release date? These and other questions plague me
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Fascinating, but what model? When was release date? These and other questions plague me

did you not look in the wiki ? It has all the info you asked about ....

http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix
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