Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > General Discussions

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-11-2010, 07:32 PM   #1
EABonney
Junior Member
EABonney began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 2
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: HTC EVO
What has happened to books at eReader?

Ok so I have been an avid user of the eReader website for over eight years. Way back to when it was palm Reader. I have well over 100 books purchased here and I had close to 100 in my wish list. So then a couple of months ago I went to buy some books from my wish list and I noticed that the size of my list had fallen to only 17 books! At first I thought it was a mistake and that I needed to add all my books back. That was when I realized that the issue was bigger. Most of the mainstream authors that I had been reading or wanting to read where no longer available on the site. So I emailed support to see what was going on and I was told that there had been some changes in the publishing industry and they where in negotiations with publishers to offer the books again. So I waited a month or so and fired off another email, only to get the same response back.

So then this week I find the Kindle software for Android and I reviewed their catalogue and they have all the books I aS looking for. I tried one last time at eReader and they still are not offering most of the authors I want.

I decided to check out something else. I looked at Barnes and Nobles site for their ebooks that are available for their Nook. Funny how all the authors I am looking for are available for their proprietary reader, but not for their free eReader software. To me, the "uneducated" consumer, it would appear that B&N are attempting to push to consumers to their Nook by limiting book titles in their eReader software. Sadly because really didn't mind that form of DRM and now it appears I am moving towards the Kindle software.

I did notice that Borders also opened up an ebook site along with an Android reader as well. I may need to review this option also.

So does anyone here know what has happened over at eReader? Is it truly publishers not allowing them to sell certain titles all of a sudden or more of the parent company attempting to push sales of their Nook device?

-Eric
EABonney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2010, 08:06 PM   #2
sabredog
Geographically Restricted
sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sabredog ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
sabredog's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,592
Karma: 14933353
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Perth, Australia
Device: Sony PRS-650, Sony PRS-T3, Kindle 3, iPad2, Nexus7v2
You can pretty much blame the publishers. The so called "Agency 5" withdrew many ebooks from most ebook sellers as they reviewed prices, geo restriction options etc and then re-negotiated agreements with those said same stores.

I lost 70% of my purchased books at Diesel due to the new changes making those books purchased geo restricted.

This all came about because of Apple's new iBooks store and the publishers love-hate relationship with Amazon ebook pricing structure.
sabredog is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Enthusiast
Old 07-12-2010, 12:08 AM   #3
DJHARKAVY
Addict
DJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blueDJHARKAVY can differentiate black from dark navy blue
 
Posts: 280
Karma: 13444
Join Date: Dec 2009
Device: Blackberry, jetbook lite
Ereader is owned by Fictionwise, which is owned by Barnes and Noble.

Fictionwise could not, or would not make a deal with the Agencies. Therefore the availability of many of their secure books went down the toilet.
DJHARKAVY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 12:36 AM   #4
=X=
Wizard
=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.=X= ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
=X='s Avatar
 
Posts: 3,672
Karma: 12205348
Join Date: Mar 2008
Device: Galaxy S, Nook w/CM7
Quote:
Originally Posted by EABonney View Post
....
So then this week I find the Kindle software for Android and I reviewed their catalogue and they have all the books I aS looking for. I tried one last time at eReader and they still are not offering most of the authors I want.

I decided to check out something else. I looked at Barnes and Nobles site for their ebooks that are available for their Nook. Funny how all the authors I am looking for are available for their proprietary reader, but not for their free eReader software. To me, the "uneducated" consumer, it would appear that B&N are attempting to push to consumers to their Nook by limiting book titles in their eReader software. Sadly because really didn't mind that form of DRM and now it appears I am moving towards the Kindle software....
-Eric
Personally, I don't like B&N marketing style, they say a lot of half truths and what not. But this time I really think this is a technical issue and not a "evil genius" marketing.

The B&N reader is just really the eReader app rebranned with the label. Since the original app only supported eReader format B&N reader only supports eReader format.

When they made the move from eReader to ePUB, they also announced the nook and staid that currently only the nook supports ePUB, but other devices would get support. They have never announced a timeline as to when this would happen.

My feeling is they are not getting these books in eReader format.

=X-
=X= is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 10:49 AM   #5
ATimson
Evangelist
ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ATimson ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
ATimson's Avatar
 
Posts: 425
Karma: 1044878
Join Date: Apr 2009
Device: nook STR, iPod Touch 3G
Quote:
Originally Posted by =X= View Post
My feeling is they are not getting these books in eReader format.
If that were the case, then a) Fictionwise would be selling them in ePub; and b) they wouldn't be available in eReader for iPhone/Mac, which only support the eReader format at present. (Maybe they've updated the desktop reader for Mac to use ePub, but last I checked only Windows was so blessed.)

It's not a technical issue.
ATimson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 11:18 AM   #6
GeoffC
Chocolate Grasshopper ...
GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
GeoffC's Avatar
 
Posts: 26,896
Karma: 16968764
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Scotland
Device: Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW
Eric

Welcome to mobileread .... and the wonderful world of readersVpublishersVoutlets - all you need to experience now is geographic restriction .....
GeoffC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 03:58 PM   #7
EABonney
Junior Member
EABonney began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 2
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: HTC EVO
Thanks all for the responses. why is it to much to ask for the industry to adopt a single format for ebooks and then let the devices compete based on features? I know that is a pope dream but man, this is just terrible. It is no wonder that ebooks have not really taken off after all these years! You would think that publishers would learn from the mistakes of the music and video industries. I am not against paying decent prices for ebooks, but I sure would like to know for sure that my ebooks are going to be usable in the future.

So all of this has something to do with Apple? I know they are huge and all but really do they have that much pull to have created such a mess in thus industry?

Like I said, most of what I am currently reading is available from Amazon so I guess it is just a change in reader software for me. I still have all of my old eReader books on my device and can still read them as they DRM is still usable, I just can't download them again nor can I buy any good new books from them.

Just stupid, but oh well.

-Eric
EABonney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 01:28 PM   #8
bwaldron
Wizard
bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
bwaldron's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,221
Karma: 530854
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida, USA
Device: Kindle 1/2/3/4/PW2, Droid Maxx, Galaxy Tab Pro (12.2")
Quote:
Originally Posted by EABonney View Post
So all of this has something to do with Apple? I know they are huge and all but really do they have that much pull to have created such a mess in thus industry?
Pretty much, yeah. They gave the big publishers leverage against Amazon, leading to agency pricing.
bwaldron is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Converting eReader books mjmcleod Calibre 73 12-18-2012 07:41 AM
Best ereader for PDF books Paulo Which one should I buy? 19 10-16-2010 07:41 PM
sending books to ereader how?? petercreasey General Discussions 1 04-05-2010 04:15 PM
Convert books for eReader? Alexander Turcic Workshop 19 09-14-2008 10:31 PM
Are eReader Books Welcome? 6charlong Workshop 18 01-30-2008 05:13 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:07 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.