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Old 07-08-2010, 12:05 AM   #1
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Embedded images: landscape or portrait?

I'm working on embedding some original images into an ebook and I've found that in some cases, the original images were landscape -- in other words, you had to turn the book on its side to view them. As I convert these, I just wanted people's opinions: would you prefer that these remain landscape in the ebook, or that they be rotated to portrait so that you don't have to turn the reader on its side?
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Old 07-08-2010, 12:21 AM   #2
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Landscape. Keep as much detail as possible.
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Old 07-08-2010, 02:50 AM   #3
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I agree. Rotating a device isn't that hard to do (especially if compared to a pbook) and if it gives you more detail, I'm all for it.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:25 AM   #4
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In a perfect world, the device would obey EXIF flags in the image (which specify the "natural" orientation of the image), and have some setting letting the user decide how to handle images larger than the screen (auto-rotate, shrink to fit, etc.)

But the world is not perfect, and you have too big margins, images that overflow the visible area, devices that automatically change the orientation when rotated (and devices that don't)...
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:29 AM   #5
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Have to agree. Rotate the picture so it's viewed in landscape.
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Old 07-08-2010, 03:16 PM   #6
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Maintain the Aspect ratio,

Then fill the screen up to 100% of original size

No Stretch-o-Vision please
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:21 PM   #7
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Agree, landscape.
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Have to agree. Rotate the picture so it's viewed in landscape.
But what if someone likes reading the text in landscape? He/she will see the illustration rotated, instead of nicely fitting the landscape screen
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But what if someone likes reading the text in landscape? He/she will see the illustration rotated, instead of nicely fitting the landscape screen
You just had to point that out :P

Good point, with portable devices , there needs to be a EPUB provision for screen aspect orientation.

IMGRotate: Default: Never | Best [inverted]
Best would follow text presentation if rotated, and allow for a dece side user preference if currently in Portrait mode [inverted] inverts the default Best rotation.
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That would be not needed if, as I suggested, the images were properly tagged and the reading software had good options. Once the program "knows" what the natural orientation is supposed to be and what orientation the user prefers, it could make the right choices.
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That would be not needed if, as I suggested, the images were properly tagged and the reading software had good options. Once the program "knows" what the natural orientation is supposed to be and what orientation the user prefers, it could make the right choices.
I may not have been quite clear.

I have a reader (Astak PP).
I can read normal (portrait), but if I zoom past a certain level (PDF), the reader image rotates to get to the next size .
Other devices have accelerometers to tell how it is being held.

The image processor needs to compensate (or not) depending on the current display position.
Example reading Landscape (rotated), a Landscape picture would NOT be rotated. Reading in Portrait orientation, The picture rotates in the User preferred direction (some people like CCW, others like CW) The trick, is for devices with accelerometers to not "repaint" just because the user turned a sideways (reading portrait) displayed Landscape picture.
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Thanks for the discussion - I certainly learned something. I was one of the <20% who would prefer everything be the same orientation, but given that over 80% want to preserve the book orientation, I'll do it that way in the eBooks.

As for auto-rotation, great ideas but given that I'm working with EPUB format, I don't think the standard (in its current form) allows for any of that (yet) so I can't do anything about it.

Thanks!
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