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Old 07-04-2010, 08:37 AM   #31
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Kobo have done the hard yards with this major upgrade. It is not perfect, but the groundwork has been done to have anther tweak or two to get things a little more flexible for those who want sleep-mode convenience over those who prefer maximum operation from one charge.

Give it a month and I am reasonably sure that Kobo can settle this and make everyone happy.
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Old 07-05-2010, 11:37 PM   #32
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[...] than lose my place in the book i was last reading (sleep doesn't do that, but the forced shutdown does)
For real? I haven't done the firmware upgrade yet (I'm still waiting fo the Australian/Borders firmware update). But I currently power down/up my Kobo every day, and I have never lost my place in a book. Yes, I have to re-open the book, but I don't lose my bookmark.
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For real? I haven't done the firmware upgrade yet (I'm still waiting fo the Australian/Borders firmware update). But I currently power down/up my Kobo every day, and I have never lost my place in a book. Yes, I have to re-open the book, but I don't lose my bookmark.
My Kobo has shut-down at least 20 times since the update, and not once have I lost my page. I am however, really getting sick and tired of having to turn my reader on over, and over, and over, and over again...
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:40 AM   #34
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For real? I haven't done the firmware upgrade yet (I'm still waiting fo the Australian/Borders firmware update). But I currently power down/up my Kobo every day, and I have never lost my place in a book. Yes, I have to re-open the book, but I don't lose my bookmark.
What about be forced shut it down 3 times a day?
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:32 AM   #35
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I like the new shutdown feature. If I'm interrupted reading I can lightly push the power switch and it will sleep. If I fail to return it will shut down for me. If I return within 15 minutes it will power up quickly.. If I know I'm through reading for the evening and hold the power switch 2 seconds, it will power off. What is wrong with this? I find it a very efficient system.
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I like the new shutdown feature. If I'm interrupted reading I can lightly push the power switch and it will sleep. If I fail to return it will shut down for me. If I return within 15 minutes it will power up quickly.. If I know I'm through reading for the evening and hold the power switch 2 seconds, it will power off. What is wrong with this? I find it a very efficient system.
Why do you have to put it in sleep if you know you'll return in 15 minutes?
What about this scenario:
I started reading during my breakfast, then go out to take bus and continue reading on the bus; read the book on the bus way back home at afternoon; read the book before supper when I get home, continue reading after supper; after waching TV in the evening, continue reading on bed. how many times should I start it up???

don't tell me I have to rush to the bus station and have to make sure I can be on the bus within 15 minutes;
don't tell me I have to finish my supper in 15 minutes;
don't tell me I can only enjoy my TV for 15 minutes.

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Old 07-06-2010, 12:25 PM   #37
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I can understand why some people would like the auto-sleep and auto-powerdown, and other people wouldn't. But is that the only problem (if it is a problem) that people have found with the firmware upgrade? I haven't upgraded yet, and if that's the only drawback, I'll probably try it. On the whole, it probably fixes more problems than it introduces.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:28 PM   #38
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:51 PM   #39
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I don't like the automatic shut-off either. I think it consumes much more when you turn it on that what's saved by automatic shutting it down.
However I won't call anyone stupid, I won't offend any one. It's still one of my best expenses out there and I love the fact that Kobo reps and developers are listening to me.

I will simply ask them to improve this in the next firmware release. Give us a setting to set up how do we handle this situation: sleep time (5,10,15..., never) and auto off time (5,10,15..., never) and I am happy.

However I would totally "remove" the off feature (unless you keep the off button pressed for 10 seconds) and improve the Sleep feature. Put it to sleep not by a single light press of the off button, but after a second. Same for waking up.
This would still mean that the device consumes a little when in sleep mode, but everyone knows that a device "sleeping" is not really off and we can deal with the battery. It still will last a week!

This way we can:

1) When ON -> press the on/off button for 1 second -> sleep
2) When ASLEEP -> press the on/off button for 1 second -> awake
3) When ON/ASLEEP -> press the on/off button for 10 seconds -> off
4) When OFF, same as now.
5) When ON -> user selectable sleep timeout expires -> sleep
6) When ON/ASLEEP -> user selectable off timeout expires -> off
7) When ON, if battery is lower than 10% -> go to sleep
8) When ON/SLEEP, if battery is lower than 5% -> go off

In SLEEP mode: do not react to the buttons (except for the on/off one)
In SLEEP mode: show user selectable screen (sleep screen / volume cover)
In OFF mode: show user selectable screen (off screen / volume cover)

This way it can be sold with recommended settings (as we have it now), but users can change it. I don't care if it lasts 1 week less if I leave it in sleep mode as long as it lasts at least a week or so.
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:15 PM   #40
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First post here. I have ordered my Kobo and expect to get it within the next few days so I cannot comment on whether or not the new sleep/off feature will bother me. I do like Anidel's suggested feature set. One change I would make though is change the suggested 10 second button hold to 3 or 4 seconds. I can't see myself having to hold a button for 10 seconds for any feature short of factory reset.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:19 PM   #41
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First post here. I have ordered my Kobo and expect to get it within the next few days so I cannot comment on whether or not the new sleep/off feature will bother me. I do like Anidel's suggested feature set. One change I would make though is change the suggested 10 second button hold to 3 or 4 seconds. I can't see myself having to hold a button for 10 seconds for any feature short of factory reset.
My sentiments exactly.
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:15 PM   #42
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Not impressed by "sleep" mode. Put my Kobo into sleep mode and went to sleep... following evening pressed button to come out of sleep mode and the battery was drained.
I'll stay with a full power off I think. I don't have a USB port close to where I use the Kobo.
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:39 PM   #43
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Not impressed by "sleep" mode. Put my Kobo into sleep mode and went to sleep... following evening pressed button to come out of sleep mode and the battery was drained.
I'll stay with a full power off I think. I don't have a USB port close to where I use the Kobo.
How did you manage to do that? It won't stay in sleep mode for more than 15 minutes, so it must have been completely off by the following evening.
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I found that the first time it went into sleep mode by itself something failed and drained my power - it never made it to power-off mode. It only did that the first time and since then I've not had any issues with sleep/power off (other than the common issue of: "when I put it into sleep it should STAY in sleep" ) I don't think the firmware upgrade has made a difference for my battery life. It's ok, but I'm still not seeing anything like 8000 pages either. I've read about 500 page turns and my battery shows a bit over half.
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I found that the first time it went into sleep mode by itself something failed and drained my power - it never made it to power-off mode.
I have also experienced this and it has only happened once so far.
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