Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Amazon Kindle

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-26-2010, 09:25 PM   #1
osama_jamal
"eBook Addict!"
osama_jamal began at the beginning.
 
osama_jamal's Avatar
 
Posts: 51
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Jordan
Device: Sony Reader PRS-505
Zooming on the DX

I am a PRS 505 owner and am considering the DX as my large screen reader for PDFs mainly and textbooks. I need to make sure however that it can zoom in into documents, in landscape and flips pages while maintaining the zoom level.

Can anyone help me with this?
Pictures will be greatly appreciated.
Can KDX annotate PDF files?
osama_jamal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2010, 04:43 AM   #2
osama_jamal
"eBook Addict!"
osama_jamal began at the beginning.
 
osama_jamal's Avatar
 
Posts: 51
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Jordan
Device: Sony Reader PRS-505
I think it also can. I was looking for help on the zoom function. If it can zoom then now it is a much better suited device for education. Maybe the best choice since the eDGe is very bulky.
I was waiting for a Que but they are not rationale with their delays. The device is now two years in development! Very long and disappointing!
osama_jamal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2010, 05:25 AM   #3
Latinandgreek
Warrior Princess
Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Latinandgreek ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Latinandgreek's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,024
Karma: 9476841
Join Date: Sep 2009
Device: PRS-505; PRS-350, PRS-T1, iPad mini, HP Touchpad, Aura HD
I'm pretty sure that you can only annotate with the hard keyboard and that it doesn't support hand-annotations (no stylus). Here is a link to the MR wiki:

http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindle_DX

It seems that it can do landscape rotation, I'm not sure about the zoom, reflow, etc.
Latinandgreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2010, 05:33 AM   #4
FrozenRiver
Member
FrozenRiver began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 21
Karma: 14
Join Date: May 2010
Device: kindle DX
You can zoom into a pdf page, sure. But only 150%, 200% and 300% options are available, no free zoom. You can rotate the screen 360 degrees.

So far you cannot annotate in a pdf file. Nor is dictionary available.
FrozenRiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2010, 08:47 AM   #5
dariop
Junior Member
dariop began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 2
Karma: 10
Join Date: Dec 2009
Device: nook
You can bookmark pages within PDF in DX, and the PDF's pages are well numbered it goes to the right page of the book. Anyways, if you are reading text books it is better and faster annotate in a blank page!
dariop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2010, 10:54 AM   #6
mdovell
Zealot
mdovell began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 126
Karma: 30
Join Date: Feb 2010
Device: Kindle DX
I have a strong feeling the next kindle is a touch one...software updates in the future could probably have a greater zooming function..

Basically if the products of eink look to be the same it's going to eventually push companies to do more (other than lower the price)
mdovell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 07:02 AM   #7
osama_jamal
"eBook Addict!"
osama_jamal began at the beginning.
 
osama_jamal's Avatar
 
Posts: 51
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Jordan
Device: Sony Reader PRS-505
I don't understand why are we getting into a discussion on K3. I was just looking for a reason not to get an Entourage Edge and get a DX instead. =(

Can't just someone give me some photos regarding reading PDF textbooks on DX and how the zoom works?
Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaasseeeee
Thanks
osama_jamal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:47 AM   #8
paperwastage
Zealot
paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.paperwastage is no ebook tyro.
 
paperwastage's Avatar
 
Posts: 144
Karma: 1310
Join Date: Dec 2009
Device: kindle DX Graphite, jetbook Color
well, my friend has a refurb US Kindle DX coming monday or so next week, and I can do the same thing I did here for the dx
paperwastage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 12:15 PM   #9
tomsem
Wizard
tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tomsem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 2,401
Karma: 2519673
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Device: iPod Touch, Xoom, Kindle PW, iPad3, Fire HD2
there's no support for PDF links, either (e.g. to jump from a TOC or index to the referenced location). You can set bookmarks to help out with navigation a little, but ick.
tomsem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 02:50 PM   #10
eboyhan
PandaMuse
eboyhan doesn't littereboyhan doesn't litter
 
eboyhan's Avatar
 
Posts: 104
Karma: 104
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Florida
Device: kindle dx, kindle touch SO, kindle fire, kindle fire hd8.9
zooming on the kindle is not like zooming in adobe reader -- it's like putting a magnifying glass (of fixed zoom % as mentioned above) over the page. It's enlarged, but some of the page will now extend beyond the right margin, and you will have to pan to see the stuff off the right edge. Contrast this with zoom in the adobe reader. There the font size is zoomed, and then the whole document is reflowed/re-laid-out to accomodate the zoomed font size -- so everything stays within the left/right margins (no panning necessary). Reading on a kindle with pan and zoom is improved, but is in nowise a pleasant useful experience for long reads. If a document is created as a PDF with the KDX in mind as the target, then a quite pleasing experience is possible. But if the font size at creation is too small for the kindle, then zoom will help, but it will not be a pleasant reading experience.

Hope this helps.
eboyhan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2010, 06:01 PM   #11
Sheikspeare
Groupie
Sheikspeare has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.Sheikspeare has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.Sheikspeare has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
Posts: 181
Karma: 290
Join Date: Jul 2009
Device: PR-505 / Kindle DX
The comparison with Adobe reader isn't entirely accurate. Keep in mind that PDFs on a PC are almost always viewed in a 'landscape' shaped screen. With an eReader you're viewing it in a 'portrait' shaped screen, which is why you don't have excess on the sides for zooming.

I can't see the point of zoom on the DX - except only when the text is formatted in two or more columns.
Sheikspeare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2010, 12:33 AM   #12
eboyhan
PandaMuse
eboyhan doesn't littereboyhan doesn't litter
 
eboyhan's Avatar
 
Posts: 104
Karma: 104
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Florida
Device: kindle dx, kindle touch SO, kindle fire, kindle fire hd8.9
When I read pdf's with the adobe reader I almost always do it in portrait mode with black bars on the left and right sides. I can change (with adobe reader) how pc screen real estate is used, or I can zoom the fonts and reflow as described above.

On the kindle its reader attempts to use all screen real estate all the time. Unless the pdf was created with the KDX in mind, you don't get very readable results.

You are right that the zoom as implemented by Amazon isn't all that useful (except perhaps for blowing up complex diagrams, figures, or pictures). Read on the DX in landscape mode is a little better save that there isn't very much text on each page, and paging forwards and backwards pdf's while in landscape mode is very much slower than the same operation in portrait mode.

Your thought about two column texts are not particularly valid (in my experience with same on the DX) as the zoom percentages (150, 200, 300%) seem more suited to the non-DX kindles. At any rate with two column texts, and zoom, you need to pan a lot to the other column -- also with the fixed zoom percentages, and the non-continuous pan movements possible, it is often not possible to set a kindle dx up in a way to make reading two-column texts practical/pleasing (ie able to read without a lot of back and forth panning)

My experiences have been with a lot of pdf's from a variety of store-bought and self-created sources on a KDX US. I have zero experience with regular kindles -- perhaps zoom and pan is more usable on those smaller devices.

I only hope that Amazon soon comes out with a more useful PDF reading capability either on existing, or new devices.

As currently implemented the kindles do not handle pdf's well enough to deal with long reading sessions of the textbooks/technical books where pdf's make the most sense.

Amazon needs a pdf reader at least as good as Adobe's -- the current kindle processors, however, may not be fast enough to support such a reader.

Last edited by eboyhan; 07-11-2010 at 12:43 AM.
eboyhan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Zooming on PDF amitambika iRiver Story 4 05-04-2010 07:04 AM
Image zooming on the Kindle 2 erich718 Amazon Kindle 0 08-06-2009 08:42 AM
Gesture for Zooming In el.astrologo Sony Reader 3 03-21-2009 12:48 AM
PRS-505 text zooming? nwatts88 Sony Reader 24 02-14-2009 12:50 AM
Zooming lullah Bookeen 3 11-09-2007 01:33 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:56 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.