Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Kobo Reader

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-22-2010, 09:28 PM   #1
Ivo
Member
Ivo began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 22
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Device: kobo
(Some) Kobo books more expensive than other ebooks

I have been monitoring the prices for a particular book (Stephen Baxter, book title: "Weaver") for some time now, and noticed that while several other ebook editions lowered their prices (from around $15 to < $10):

1. Kindle US --> $8.39
2. Penguin US --> $6.99

Kobo edition is still $15.59 CND.

Would somebody from Kobo team please read this and lower the price. The paperback edition is $9.99 CND on amazon.ca.
Ivo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 10:04 PM   #2
RedRoverJ
Zealot
RedRoverJ has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.RedRoverJ has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.RedRoverJ has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.RedRoverJ has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
Posts: 125
Karma: 314
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Canada, Eh!
Device: Blackberry Curve 8330, Kobo
Are you comparing US prices to Canadian prices? In my experience Canadian prices are always higher even when conversion is factored in. It's not exactly fair, but it is also nothing new.
RedRoverJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 10:15 PM   #3
Ivo
Member
Ivo began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 22
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Device: kobo
Canadian prices are somewhat higher, very true, but never almost twice as much as in the US.

For example, the US paperback edition of the book in question on amazon.com is $7.99 (which is the same range as the Kindle edition), while the Canadian paperback price is $9.99 (on amazon.ca).

I would expect Kobo ebook to be in the $10 range as well.
Ivo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 10:24 PM   #4
Squirsier
Addict
Squirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animalsSquirsier is kind to children and small, furry animals
 
Squirsier's Avatar
 
Posts: 214
Karma: 6894
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Longueuil, QC
Device: Signed Sony PRS-300, Sony PRS-350, Sony Tablet S
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedRoverJ View Post
Are you comparing US prices to Canadian prices? In my experience Canadian prices are always higher even when conversion is factored in. It's not exactly fair, but it is also nothing new.
Still, Sony's eBook software has it for 6.99 US also available for Canadian Citizens.

We still have to shop around for the best prices!
Squirsier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 10:30 PM   #5
Ivo
Member
Ivo began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 22
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Device: kobo
Thanks Squirsier, that is good to know!

I guess I could download Sony eBook and remove the protection. However, I don't think the problem is that Kobo is more expensive in general; prices are quite comparable to other eBook editions. The problem is that Kobo is slow to react. As I pointed out, everybody had this book in the ~$15 range until a month ago or so, and then they lowered their prices (about 2-3 months after the paperback edition came out). Kobo is just slow to take note.
Ivo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 10:36 PM   #6
AnemicOak
Bookaholic
AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AnemicOak's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,020
Karma: 28119673
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Minnesota
Device: HDX 8.9, AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, Nexus7, iPhone5, etc
Sony has it for $6.99 (ePub, just like Kobo / will work on the Kobo). They list two editions at that price and in the past when they've done that one was the US version and one Canadian but I'm not sure how to check that. It's weird, but B&N lists it twice too for $6.99 (Kindle version is $6.99 for the US too).


Something does seem messed up at Kobo. When I search I find the book twice, once for $14.49 and once at $18.99

Perhaps email Kobo CS and inquire? They're database does seem to update slowly or on a delayed basis to everyone else.
AnemicOak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 12:19 PM   #7
mwlcarter
Connoisseur
mwlcarter began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 52
Karma: 10
Join Date: May 2010
Location: St. Catharines, ON
Device: Kobo eReader
Yeah, the price of ebooks is still too high... An ebook should never cost more than a paperback edition. Sure, printing isn't the only production cost, but going from the author's Word document to ePub should allow for quite a cost savings compared to print editions.
mwlcarter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 01:31 PM   #8
Ivo
Member
Ivo began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 22
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Device: kobo
I am not sure about the process involved in eBook creation (as a digression, Atlantis does an excellent job for me, much better then calibre at setting the TOC for example), but the two results for each title seem to indicate two different publishers (e.g., Penguin and Ace Trade). It may just indicate that eBooks were created by two different publishers - there might be some difference in the formatting, fonts, etc, but otherwise it is the same book.
Ivo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 01:58 PM   #9
AnemicOak
Bookaholic
AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AnemicOak's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,020
Karma: 28119673
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Minnesota
Device: HDX 8.9, AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, Nexus7, iPhone5, etc
Penguin and Ace are just different labels of the same company.
AnemicOak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2010, 11:37 AM   #10
kremesch
Junior Member
kremesch began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 3
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: Kindle, Kobo
Yes. Something is definitely amiss. Tom Clancy's Red Rabbit is 27.89 at Kobo, and approx. $7-$11 at various other eBook retailers. If this is a glitch, methinks it should be fixed. If not, I'm unlikely to buy the book from Kobo.

ETA: I just noticed it's also at Kobo for 6.97 as well. There's two from different publishers.

Last edited by kremesch; 06-25-2010 at 12:32 PM.
kremesch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2010, 03:02 PM   #11
wrenn1
Addict
wrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchforkwrenn1 can load mercury with a pitchfork
 
Posts: 259
Karma: 48576
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: Kobo
I thought the prices were set by the publishers and each country has their own publisher?
wrenn1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2010, 05:31 PM   #12
Mememememe
Connoisseur
Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.Mememememe knows the square root of minus one.
 
Posts: 98
Karma: 7542
Join Date: May 2010
Device: Kobo
I imagine what you guys are talking about is a matter of territorial rights.

If the book is published internationally, it's often the case that different publishers hold rights in different territories. For example, Random House holds the Canadian rights to Life of Pi, while I believe Penguin holds rights in other territories. I haven't checked, but I would imagine you will find different prices for that book, depending on which edition you are looking at. Kindle, presumably, carries the US edition, while Kobo carries the Canadian edition.

Even on Kobo alone, you will find different prices for the same book. Colin McAdam's "Fall," for example, will show up in two different editions if you do a search on Kobo. It is $2 more expensive for the Canadian edition. If you're in Canada, you won't be able to buy the cheaper edition, since it would be illegal for Kobo to sell it in Canada -- that publisher doesn't hold Canadian rights.

Prices for books from Canadian publishers will necessarily be higher since Canadian publishers have a much smaller market to serve, and need to set higher prices in order to make up for the lower profit margins.

Also, different ebook suppliers have different arrangements with publishers. Kobo is among the more publisher-friendly, which is why they have the best selection of titles. Kindle tries to force pricing that makes ebook publishing unprofitable. The downside, of course, is that Kobo is unable to offer many titles for as low a price as Kindle ... but that's because Kindle is predatory.
Mememememe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2010, 07:52 PM   #13
Ivo
Member
Ivo began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 22
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Device: kobo
Interesting explanation. The book I mentioned is offered by Ace and Penguin Group US, the same publishers that sell these books for much less in the US.

Maybe it is not profitable to sell ebooks at the same price range as paperback editions, so they have to sell them for much more in Canada to make up for their losses. (This same book, in paperback, in Canada is sold for $9.99 CND, and in the states for $7.99.)

Aside from Canadian story, your argument about profitability (or lack of it) is weak. Kindle edition of this particular book in the US is $9.41, so I'm not sure what makes it unprofitable if the paperback edition costs $7.99. They surely didn't use dead trees, nor transport the books, and yet you claim that more expensive ebook is less profitable than cheaper paperback. Unless the paperback is also not profitable, even more so then ebooks.

Last edited by Ivo; 06-24-2010 at 07:58 PM.
Ivo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2010, 08:27 PM   #14
AnemicOak
Bookaholic
AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AnemicOak's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,020
Karma: 28119673
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Minnesota
Device: HDX 8.9, AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, Nexus7, iPhone5, etc
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivo View Post
Kindle edition of this particular book in the US is $9.41, so I'm not sure what makes it unprofitable if the paperback edition costs $7.99.
Kindle edition for me (in the US) is $6.99
AnemicOak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2010, 08:44 PM   #15
dorino
I'm odd. Take note.
dorino has learned how to read e-booksdorino has learned how to read e-booksdorino has learned how to read e-booksdorino has learned how to read e-booksdorino has learned how to read e-booksdorino has learned how to read e-booksdorino has learned how to read e-books
 
Posts: 325
Karma: 779
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Montana
Device: deceased PRS-600, Nook STR
With the Kobo, if you buy from Sony's store, you don't need to do a thing to it to get it working on the kobo. Same as if bought from kobo.
dorino is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why eBooks are so expensive ? SerialAeon Lounge 18 09-01-2011 08:14 PM
Why are Stephen King ebooks so expensive? ficbot General Discussions 20 04-27-2010 07:46 PM
Why are Sony Ebooks more expensive? advocate2 Sony Reader 22 07-14-2009 09:55 AM
Mobi ebooks more expensive than average Over Deals, Freebies, and Resources (No Self-Promotion) 29 03-19-2009 11:21 PM
Why are ebooks so expensive? ntgcmlfu News 77 01-18-2009 12:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:13 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.