Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > PocketBook

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-03-2010, 12:26 AM   #1
kgn
Groupie
kgn has learned how to buy an e-book online
 
Posts: 167
Karma: 94
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Device: Pocketbook 302
What is BEST format to read novels in??

I am new to eBooks, and have just bought a PB302. I have not received it yet, but already I have downloaded heaps of books. I have loaded in Calibre and while slow and clunky, it does seem to work ok.

My first issue is that there are so many formats! Some books come is 4 or 5 formats. So which one is the preferred one? Or is it just personal preference?

A lot of books come in PDF format, which I assume is going to be a problem for such a small ebook reader (PB302). I have tried the PDF conversion function in Calibre, but did not like it at all. I am currently using Calibre as my reader (in Windows), and the converted files are not good. Too many line feeds, for a start. From this, I am guessing that PDF is not the preferred format.

I mainly want to read novels. No technical manuals.
kgn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 12:48 AM   #2
bob1xxx
Zealot
bob1xxx has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.bob1xxx has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.bob1xxx has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.bob1xxx has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.bob1xxx has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
Posts: 116
Karma: 490
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: San Gabriel Califorina
Device: kindle k3 and k2 and White Aluratek Libre Pro
Im agree pdf format blows, and do to shoddy publisher conversions drm'd e pub can leave a lot to be desired too. Ive had the best luck with plain text and when I have a choice of free book format I like mobi the best.
bob1xxx is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Enthusiast
Old 06-03-2010, 03:04 AM   #3
Schnitzelbrain
Groupie
Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.Schnitzelbrain once ate a cherry pie in a record 7 seconds.
 
Posts: 180
Karma: 1606
Join Date: Apr 2010
Device: Pocketbook Touch Lux
Quote:
Originally Posted by kgn View Post
I am new to eBooks, and have just bought a PB302. I have not received it yet, but already I have downloaded heaps of books. I have loaded in Calibre and while slow and clunky, it does seem to work ok.

My first issue is that there are so many formats! Some books come is 4 or 5 formats. So which one is the preferred one? Or is it just personal preference?

A lot of books come in PDF format, which I assume is going to be a problem for such a small ebook reader (PB302). I have tried the PDF conversion function in Calibre, but did not like it at all. I am currently using Calibre as my reader (in Windows), and the converted files are not good. Too many line feeds, for a start. From this, I am guessing that PDF is not the preferred format.

I mainly want to read novels. No technical manuals.

Try the converted PDF files on the 302. U can not take the calibre text flow as it is on the PB.
When u choose FBreader to view the files on the PB it takes its own algorithm to view the file. It ignores i.E. most of the tags when viewing.
So it look different.
Also play with the calibre conversion setting, I read all my novels in EPUB format. Converted out of a PDF-EPUB conversion with calibre.
Schnitzelbrain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 03:18 AM   #4
Bookster
Maniac
Bookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enough
 
Posts: 63
Karma: 632
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: Gen3 PRS505&600 Kindle2 Pocketbook360&302 BeBookmini Onyx Boox Opus
Hello

PDFs are possibly the worst format to read with, especially text (novels and essays alike!), if you don't have a proper "grand format" reader. You might prefer ePub or FB2, which are more adaptable to personal settings (change of font size, for example). If I can ask, what are your ebook sources?

Have fun with your new reader
Bookster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 05:34 AM   #5
kgn
Groupie
kgn has learned how to buy an e-book online
 
Posts: 167
Karma: 94
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Device: Pocketbook 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookster View Post
Hello

If I can ask, what are your ebook sources?
Just downloads. No online store.
kgn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 05:47 AM   #6
Bookster
Maniac
Bookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enoughBookster will become famous soon enough
 
Posts: 63
Karma: 632
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: Gen3 PRS505&600 Kindle2 Pocketbook360&302 BeBookmini Onyx Boox Opus
Quote:
Originally Posted by kgn View Post
Just downloads. No online store.
So, if you don't have DRM issues with downloads (I suppose PG and similar sites), you can always try conversion with Calibre and then evaluate what format gives you more ease. This way you can also choose the font, by installing the appropriate files in a subdirectory of the system directory, in the reader.
Bookster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 05:55 AM   #7
mdmorrissey
Addict
mdmorrissey has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.mdmorrissey has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.mdmorrissey has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
Posts: 220
Karma: 262
Join Date: May 2010
Device: PocketBook 360
As I said in another thread ("Bookmark glitches") I've only had my PB360 for a week or so and have had bookmark and freezing (return to Start page) from the beginning. I read stuff converted by Kalibre, usually from PDF to Epub. Let us know if the 302 has the same problems. I'm thinking of sending mine back for repair. It's VERY frustrating to keep losing your place, because it's MUCH harder to find it again as opposed to a paper book. This should definitely not happen. I did not pay 240 euros to get this frustration!!
mdmorrissey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 06:47 AM   #8
mtravellerh
book creator
mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
mtravellerh's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,613
Karma: 1620342
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Device: PB360°
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdmorrissey View Post
As I said in another thread ("Bookmark glitches") I've only had my PB360 for a week or so and have had bookmark and freezing (return to Start page) from the beginning. I read stuff converted by Kalibre, usually from PDF to Epub. Let us know if the 302 has the same problems. I'm thinking of sending mine back for repair. It's VERY frustrating to keep losing your place, because it's MUCH harder to find it again as opposed to a paper book. This should definitely not happen. I did not pay 240 euros to get this frustration!!
md, please try to use 14.2 if you want a rock steady system!
mtravellerh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 11:31 AM   #9
mdmorrissey
Addict
mdmorrissey has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.mdmorrissey has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.mdmorrissey has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
Posts: 220
Karma: 262
Join Date: May 2010
Device: PocketBook 360
I am using 14.2 and have never tried to change it, but as I reported in "Bugs" I still have the problem. Twice today in 5 hours of simple page-turning -- no change of reader, font, text size, or book. "Rock steady" it certainly is not. Schnitzel recommends I contact PB service. What do you think?
mdmorrissey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 11:52 AM   #10
fjtorres
Grand Sorcerer
fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 7,367
Karma: 57842805
Join Date: May 2009
Location: 26 kly from Sgr A*
Device: PRS-T1, KT, PB701/IQ, K2, PB360, BeBook One, Axim51v, TC1000
1- PDF is not an ebook format; it's an electronic paper format. It's optimum display is on paper. Next best is a full-size computer.
2- rtf, doc, and html are document formats. FBReader does a good job with them but they're still suboptimal.
3- FB2, ePub, and PRC are true ebook formats designed from the ground up for reflow across multiple screen sizes and devices.
4- ePub has been corrupted with a fair amount of PDF-like features by the big publishers so you can end up with hard-wired formatting you can't override in Adobeviewer in commercial epubs. If you do your own conversion and/or read wth FBReader that should not be an issue. An epub is generally a renamed Zipped folder with fairly clean XML file using Open ebook schema and an included txt metafile. Conversion to other formats in the future should be painless. It is an excellent cross-platform format supported on pretty much everything except Kindle.
5- PRC is a clean HTML-based format but not 100% fully documented. The PB360 FBReaders don't do chapter breaks properly and often don't recognize the TOC. It is a very good cross-platform reader, though, supported everywhere except Sony and Nook.
6- FB2 is FBReader's native format. It is broadly used worldwide but not supported by any of the name-brand dedicated readers with commercial ebook store ties (Sony, Nook, Kindle, etc).

Pick your poison.
(I'd start with ePub, then try Mobi. Much as I like my PB360, I know it will not be my last ebook reader, so file portability matters to me.)
fjtorres is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 12:35 PM   #11
brainycat
PocketBook 302 FTW!
brainycat has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.brainycat has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.brainycat has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.brainycat has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
brainycat's Avatar
 
Posts: 134
Karma: 398
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle
Device: Pocketbook 302, upgraded from PRS-600
My vote is for epub, I feel it hits a sweet spot between functionality and cross platform support.
brainycat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2010, 05:17 AM   #12
s.g.
Junior Member
s.g. began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 3
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: pocketbook 360, Kindle 4
Just a note regarding PDF:
PDF files are different, can be graphics base, can be multi-column layout, etc. which makes it next to useless on a 5" display.
However, *sometimes* it's just a tagged text which can be converted without problem with Calibre (1), Copy/Pasted (2) or even Saved-As Text (3) in Adobe Reader.
Thus, in addition to file format, also pay attention to its content format.
Hope it helps,
s.g.
s.g. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 04:14 AM   #13
mtravellerh
book creator
mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mtravellerh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
mtravellerh's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,613
Karma: 1620342
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Luxembourg
Device: PB360°
Quote:
Originally Posted by s.g. View Post
Just a note regarding PDF:
PDF files are different, can be graphics base, can be multi-column layout, etc. which makes it next to useless on a 5" display.
However, *sometimes* it's just a tagged text which can be converted without problem with Calibre (1), Copy/Pasted (2) or even Saved-As Text (3) in Adobe Reader.
Thus, in addition to file format, also pay attention to its content format.
Hope it helps,
s.g.
Agreed, pdf is only real good if the layout is configured for the size of the device. When this is done correctly, nothing can beat PDF. For everyday novels that don't need a lot of difficult formatting, ePub rules.
mtravellerh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 05:13 AM   #14
sassanik
Guru
sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.sassanik has too *@%# much karma.
 
sassanik's Avatar
 
Posts: 762
Karma: 199991
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oregon
Device: EB1150, iPhone, Cool-er Purple, Pocketbook 360, Kindle Fire
epub

I use epub as my main format for my PB360, and I am over all happy with it. It does occasionally have some issues, but not too frequently.

I agree with the others, that PDF's tend not to do well.

Amy
sassanik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 02:51 PM   #15
Guns4Hire
Reading...Since 1970
Guns4Hire will become famous soon enoughGuns4Hire will become famous soon enoughGuns4Hire will become famous soon enoughGuns4Hire will become famous soon enoughGuns4Hire will become famous soon enoughGuns4Hire will become famous soon enoughGuns4Hire will become famous soon enough
 
Guns4Hire's Avatar
 
Posts: 497
Karma: 701
Join Date: Jan 2010
Device: Nook Simple Touch, Pocketbook 360, HP Touchpad
I convert everything to epub. I have a few PDF's but only because those specific PDF's had issues with converting.
Guns4Hire is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Good post-apocalyptic novels in ebook format? jfrancis Reading Recommendations 80 01-17-2011 02:42 PM
Would you recommend Tom Clancy to someone who has never read military/spy novels? rahulm Reading Recommendations 18 06-21-2010 08:48 AM
Pages/Novels Read on your Ipad + Other E-Readers since 4/3 iserian Apple Devices 14 04-22-2010 06:29 PM
The Guardian's 1000 novels to read before you die Alexander Turcic Reading Recommendations 17 02-11-2009 11:54 PM
Does the sony read ereader format davers Sony Reader 5 12-12-2008 01:03 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:41 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.